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Tall Grass Eon Update

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As much as id love for this to be implemented i think it would be kinda unfair to people who have wasted millions to hunt it already.

Though i guess if we overlook that point maybe instead of getting an option to choose which egg we want it could be something like one of the following options?
1)take egg or search again? Takw egg will add egg in party but searching again will refresh the search and u can hope next one is different coloured. Though there is a chance it might be same coloured.

2)Take the egg or search again? Taking egg will use the enigma stone and add the egg in party. Searching again will allow us to search again in the samw grass for the other coloured egg.
It will prevent it from being too easy bit also make it easier then is.

(Yes the grass will contain both coloured eggs at different parches)

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It makes more sense to just use an enigma stone and be able to pick the egg you want without an extra upgrade. At least, in my opinion.

But anything that helps make hunting Lati@s easier is welcome haha, so I definitely support this anyway!

@absol: We (Sturmi and me) both hunted Lati@s... But we still want to help the community to suffer less if possible...

I feel like this idea would make it too easy, enigma stones are already pretty cheap as is, this would move the latis from one of the more expensive shiny legendaries, into one of the cheapest. I get the point of making it easier to hunt, but people hunt it as is knowing the costs. It's not like getting egg storages only has a use in hunting latis, it also makes other hunts like event hunts easier since you can just store a bunch of event eggs before starting now that you have the space.

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from someone that never hunted [email protected] I guess my opinion don't count- but like..
I think there should be a little of difficulty left,I like the "choose what egg you want" idea, but I feel that the eon ticket makes it like- a little too easy
I agree with the "choose what egg you want" idea

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Everyone's suggestion matters... So any better ideas or corrections can help :)

Support. Just because something is difficult doesn't mean it's good or fun. And Enigma Stones are still somewhat pricy, and being forced to buy egg storages just for a attempt at a shiny is even more pricy. And say your storage gets full and you run into the one that will break your chain. That's likely going to result in both many enigma stones (and thus PD) being wasted, as well as months hunting being wasted.

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the amount of pd needed for egg storage is a real big turn off for most people even if they love the shinies. considering this would make it far cheaper to hunt the thing then yeah im for it. also i voted so im not just posting i support this. for those that are against it are you even aware of the price for even 50 egg storage boxes?? and considering that people might need in excess of 100 if their hunt is real bad??

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Just because people manage to amass ridiculous amounts of money for the horrendously expensive egg storages to hunt them doesn't excuse or give reason for it not to be made easier, and the reason they do it knowing the cost and the risk of it is because there is no alternative to it. Sure it comes with the benefit of multiple egg storages being useful for other things but that doesn't mean Lati@s isnt a horrible hunt that takes a ridiculous amount of preparation to even attempt right now which could result in a chain that ultimately screws you over anyway.

An example of such being Kimie's recent chain of Latias where she got a shiny at 87 and then had to break it by force of hand as the site gave her a Latios when her egg storage was filled with them, meaning she'd be without a second Latias. The argument of other people going through something and then it being made easier over time being 'unfair' is a bad one imo and just sounds kinda gatekeep-y. If it must be made not-so-easy to please some people, i'd argue the egg should show which one it is upon being found at least, so if its the wrong one you can choose to cancel the hunt and try again, resetting which Lati the game generates.

So, as stated, i'd agree with the second option or a spin on it being great. The people who spent millions hunting it aren't gonna lose their egg storages they can utilize for other troublesome hunts or a headstart to many of their others so ultimately they don't miss out on anything, and if they themselves want to, they can mention their shinies are obtained prior to the update and assign a sort of Legacy status to their own shinies.

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If people don’t want the trouble, then they shouldn’t hunt it. Latios hunting is no doubt challenging, but it’s very rewarding to those who manage to do it

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it is still challenging even without the need for storage boxes the need for searching tall grass for one and also you got to be very accurate on how many summons you need or you will be scrambling during your hunt to find more and even though they are cheap now they are still not as common as you d like to think.

Well if people who have hunted it in the past have no problem with it I don’t see no reason not to. 😊

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First of all we want to thank you for taking your time to state your opinion, vote and in general NOT ignoring this suggestion. :D That's a lot already and we appreciate that.

Having different opinions is good and talking about that can help us to find new ideas. It doesn't matter if you have hunted lati@s already. Every opinion has the same value since all of us play this game.

I know some of you feel worried about the recent changes. Some of you have the feeling ph is becoming too easy. While making money on this site is not as easy anymore. That's a fact, if you don't want to sell overpriced gems or summon items. Being worried is absolutely okay. But please try to keep in mind some things: even if those changes would be implemented somehow in the future (we don't know that, at the end riako and the staff have to decide that), it is still a hunt that needs preparation and a lot of time. We also think it should not be too easy, we're still talking about obtaining shiny legendary pokemon. But if we compare this hunt with other legendary shiny hunts we all can't ignore the fact that obtaining a shiny lati@s is definetly way harder than any other legendary. I think that's what we all can agree on.

Let's have a look at hunting cosmog. I, for example, think that kind of hunt should be our goal for lati@s. Because, to hunt lati@s also means to obtain 4 shinies in total. We also want to mega evolve them with an enigma pearl. I mean yes, first it may seem like: ugh.. It's just playing tall grass and putting that egg in your party. Where's the challenge again?
The challenge is to keep going doing this boring stuff until you got 4 shinies. Let's keep in mind in that time you can't hunt anything else. And even with the current changes to the tall grass, this is still time consuming. You have to make sure to come back to this site every 30 minutes to search for an egg. And you still have to search for 1 egg multiple times.
Before the tall grass changes, loketoke was hunting cosmog for 7 months without a break to obtain 4 shinies. Most of us do not know how much it takes to stick to something for such a long time, because people who have hunted something successfully do not (or just rarely) talk about such things. But let's be honest: As soon as we've completed a hunt, we are happy it's over. We want to move on. We all are doing hunts because of the shiny result, not because we think it's fun.

We don't want to make lati@s lose value in any way. What we want is to have equal chances while doing a legendary hunt. If you think our ideas won't make this happen, please help us to discover a way that will.

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I Support this Idea.
I was afraid of doing a Lati@s hunt cause of the Storage Box-Places. Buying them and Buy Premium-year with PD isn´t fitting well(that´s for sure my personal prob, cause I don´t want to buy Nugs with real money, but still a reason to stay away from a Lati@s hunt.).
Anyway, I had great respect on people, doing that hunt.

The first option is nice, but I like the second more. I would appreciate the Suggestion from Sturmi, or in the way Taavi and Gregory-Lee suggest with 'Take or search again'. It would highly help to avoid Eggs you don´t need. Like Gregory-Lee wrote, you have to break the chain, cause Egg Storage is full and found the wrong egg or if you´re done with Latias and keep finding Latias eggs, so you have to hatch them. It would help to stabilize the price of the regulare Lati@s, too.
I think the hunt is even with this update still a big challange, not everyone takes on, it doesn´t make it really 'more easy', just more organized.

I really like this idea, I personally could never save up enough for all those egg storage but I do love the Lati@s shinies.

I also had an idea personally of each having their own summon item, but that choosing an egg idea when you find them is a really good one I hadn't thought of. And kind of adorable.

200% Support ! i mean if you ever want to Hunt any of these you always need to buy enough egg storage's because getting these eggs were random ! ....but this update sounds reasonable.

80% support? it would be very useful for future hunters, i like the ticket idea and the subsite would also work as well, possibly in conjunction. personally i wouldnt use it as im not bothered about lati@s and it definitely helps with saving hundreds of egg storages.

Support, but I think it would be enough if you can simply choose which egg you want, because you still need to collect the items and find the egg spot in the tall grass... why should it be harder than other Tall Grass Hunts to get the egg you want?
So I don't think asking to pay for another item would be really fair, but ultimatly it would be up to Riako to decide that XD