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I had the idea wich was very simple .. collecting „red“ enigma stones for latias and the „blue“ enigma stones for latios ^^ .. why not make it easier? Because of the user who already did this expencive hunt? Yea .. true, it is maby not a nice changing for some of them but at the end it is a game and for fun. I agree with sturmi and csoxi.. if this eon poke hunts would be a bit easier more user would try it :) ... and for the user who already hunted let me say.. if this would be a reason not to change some things for make it easier for the future then any other things never had to be changed too like finding more dragon gems.. or other gems ... as example ... csoxi and me collected dragon gems for a yveltal hunt. The time (3 years) and money we payed were really alot. Today it is much more easy and not so expencive anymore ... but it is okay and we are happy that other user now dont need this time and money anymore.
So i would say that i really love this idea and you have my support :)

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i personally dont support just because rarity is something that theres gradually a lack of on here now sure its difficult... but its not impossible yes it costs alot but that egg storage can be used over and over and over again... the eon ticket isnt a terrible idea but it also needs to be nerfed if anything and have it a 1 ticket per egg kinda deal this is the only way it would make latias and latios more expensive but at the same time balance the cost effect yea would still be painful but i persoanlly think theres another route to take for this which is simply similer to how safarizone works... if on chain (latias) the rates boost latias chance of showing giving you a 75% chance of latias and only 25% for latios making it easier to hunt by 25% (storage would still be needed so be balanced but not as much)

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@Klepto so if I got you right you suggest a ticket system like that:

- you have to buy 1 ticket with 200-300 Nuggets
- that ticket will take effect on the next egg you find at the tall grass
- the ticket effect offers a 75% chance to obtain the egg of the pkmn you're currently hunting

100 tickets for 100 eggs would cost around 25k Nuggets that way. 25k Nuggets (250$) for not even a 100% chance to obtain the egg you want. So in the best case you also have to buy 25 egg storages plus 100 enigma stones. All of that (except the egg storage) x2 if you want to hunt the other lati@s as well.

I have to admit, I wouldn't even consider buying tickets that don't give a 100% chance - because it wouldnt make things better than they are now. I also wouldn't buy it for Nuggets then, maybe not even for pd only. Plus, think about people who had bad luck with their chain. Those who are already desperate. baiting people into a paid method is also kinda.. critical because that's some kind of gambling with real money and I think that's not legal in all parts of the world. (Germany for example.especially because we have kids on this site. 👀) I don't want to start a discussion about moral, but I think we all get in which direction this is going then.

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I want to hunt latios and latias in the future. I like the second idea. I also like "Eon Ticket" actually but not 200/300 nuggets payment.

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will probably ruin the lati twins' price, just like how the galar birds went from 350k to 50k from 3428238496342 people hunting at the same time
this economy is a mess

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thats just how things work though, and the lati twins aren't worth a great deal in the first place because theyre super old and enigma stones are some of the cheapest summons around and always have been. The galar birds were only expensive because they were relatively new and then a handful of rich users and people who can afford to buy nuggets hunted them by cleaning out any that the userbase sold so they naturally became more common so their price would obviously drop as less people needed them and fewer people wanted them, as well as more people unlocking galar and such.

this suggestion is to make the concept of hunting them more feasible because you're otherwise stuck having to try to amass like, a billion pokedollars just to have enough egg storage to even chance a hunt on top of the finicky unpredictability of rng

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One problem, this should be free, because some people just don't have the finances for it. Otherwise, it has my support.

Edit: This will ruin people if it's not free, and think about the difficulty other users went through before when this hunt ruined their finances, it'll give newer users that are up for the legend hunt a fresh perspective on the topic and they won't get ruined. I don't really like the first idea, but the second one is the way to go for me. The idea of 200 NUGGETS, just to purchase a ticket, is outrageous, like seriously, the ticket costs more than the Pokemon! This should be free, I am saying it again. That's pretty much my opinion on it, the first idea will ruin users, the second is a lot better.

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EDIT: I think it would be better to do something about the egg storage, because idk if it would be fair to older players who have already hunted it xD
(unless they plan to do something else with egg storage or something, the extra storage won't be used)
maybe like make storage cheaper and refund old players or something but that would be complicated too-

EDIT 2: Maybe an item that lets you unlock the feature of "take egg or leave it"?
would prefer lowered egg storage prices though haha

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bumping this, but support! I've wanted to hunt Latias but the need for so many egg storages is... pointless? That many egg storages just don't have much value any more.
(or maybe cap the price of egg storages past a certain point? Most people certainly don't need 50 egg storages unless they're doing a Lati@s hunt)

assuming you click a decent amount (15k a day), play the beach daily, rumble and shiny hunt and you get 150k PD a day on average, it'll still take about 2 years of doing this daily to get 50 egg storages, and that doesn't include the cost of summons and Premium, or that you will need more egg storages than that.

With that said, even though Enigma Stones (true as of a few years ago, but now stonks says theyre 120k PD) are cheap, you're essentially only summoning the right legendary half the time, so they're actually the most expensive tall grass summon.

correct my math if I'm wrong but that's kind of ridiculous, especially when you can do all this preparation and still fail to RNG. even the berrygarden trio (which cost about 1.25 mil PD to summon each) are guaranteed, even if they also have a very high cost to hunt.

Edit 2: For more mons with a high cost to hunt, we can look at Xerneas, Yveltal and the lab legends. Their hunts are still challenging and rewarding because despite their high cost, they still feel doable. Only the Eon duo hunts have the potential to basically be undoable in that regard. Theres few other things on PH which you can't control chances with PD, besides shiny Ho-Oh (you could buy codes though) or shiny Celebi

Edit: I did the math wrong. 15k clicks gives 75k PD daily (assuming amulet coin and only berry clicks), and maybe 10k from rumbles.

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bumping this! ive been thinking about what lategame means in PH, usualy it means getting premium and doing harder hunts like SM hunts, event hunts and legend hunts

so i do think its fair that the eon mons rely on egg storages. but if so, there should be a cap on their prices, or at least a guarantee that "I'm out of storages, so my next egg will cost [insert amount of PD here]"

especially considering that people will want to go for a mega, i think the price should be lowered to compensate for the uncertainty thay you might not receive the right egg multiple times in a row (other expensive hunts e.g. Gem collector [ditto, zapdos, yveltal] have a guaranteed price per egg, like most summons). benchmarking it at about 120 mil PD for a yveltal/xerneas hunt, and 625 mil for the legendary birds, i don't think the eon duo should cost more than 250 mil PD for two shinies (an appropriate amount of egg storages would be 100-120 depending on your luck?)

and even now, gem hunts are balanced by gem collector discounts, so i do think the eon duo is due for an update

(i guess that after that hunt you can immediately hunt its counterpart but its really a steep cost for anyone who just wants one)

(((and for anyone who already hunted one maybe they can be refunded the excess egg storage costs if the prices are adjusted, or given the ability to restart their hunt from where their chain left off when they want to))

more unhelpful math
- 50 egg storages: ~96 mil PD
- 75 egg storages: ~143 mil PD
- 100 egg storages: ~190 mil PD

im just imagining the situation where you sit there paying 7.5 mil PD multiple times because you keep getting the wrong egg, and then after your hunt you have 100 empty storages you'll rarely have to fill up

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I agree with having an option to pick a latios egg or latias egg.

but I don't agree with having to pay nuggets for an Eon ticket.

When your looking for a latias or latios egg, it takes a long time to find it. Every time you pick the wrong grass, you have to wait for you to be able to look for another one.Once you get the egg, you have to hatch it and it will take a long time for the egg to hatch. It would take even more longer if you are shiny hunting it.

People who are shiny hunting them, have to hatch the eggs, pay pd to get more enigma stones or try and get them from mystery box, which isn't easy to get, so making people buy Eon ticket just to be able to pick what egg they want isn't really a good idea.



Maybe we could remove the Eon ticket so that people do not have to spend nuggets that they were saving up (like to get a premium), and just have the option to pick the eggs.

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Idk. I feel like this would be good, but at the same time drastically lower the value of a latios/latias shiny. And, Riako made the pokeradar pausing thing, so exploiting that to fill up egg storage, pause radar, and empty egg storage would be a usable technique. Sure, it would cost around half a year of premium, but you are hunting a legendary. Not a normal pokemon.

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Bumping this again, cause it needs to be seen.
As the Events for Kyurem, Shaymin, Zeraora and Zarude has been changed, cause the site get flooded every time and those legys loose their worth drastically, I think it's important to point on this legy hunt again, as they are suffering under the same flood of unneeded mons.
Hunting the eon twins is indeed one of the hardest shiny legend hunts OS(maybe together with Ráylong and Necrozma).
Let's compared with the other Tall Grass hunts.
- Keldeo/Meltan
Same case as Lati@s, you get the summon items only from mystery boxes, wich causes a lot of grinding and luck. You need less Shinies(2 and 3), but most important is, you get the Pokemon you want from the item. Means 300 Resolute Stone give 100% 300 Keldeo, while 300 Enigma Stones can give 123/177 Lati@s, you simply don't know it, wich makes it hard to calculate.
- Cosmog.
You need the same amount of Shinies, but the Summon Items can be found while rumbling. Still a grind, but better chances than out of mystery boxes. Also the Nebula Stone gives a guaranted Cosmog. And on top, as you need only 2 non-shiny Lati@s each, but 8 non-shiny Cosmog, the leftover also have a higher use.

An EggStorage is always helpful, not only for those hunts. But for a Lati@s hunt it's essential needed in a big amount, cause you never know if the next egg is the one you want or not. If you're on an active hunt and found the wrong egg, but the storage is full you need to either break the chain or now as it's possible freeze the chain. But that shouldn't be the solution. If you're already done with one of them and hunting the other, but keep finding the egg of the first hunted, you still be forced to hatch them wich is producing way to many unneeded non-shinies.

So, I'm still supporting this suggestion.
Back then I honestly thought the price of the ticket idea were to high, but now I see that even if nugget prices are exploding, 200/300 Nuggets for a whole hunt(no matter how many shinies) is totally fine. Compared to that is the hunt atm with the egg storage places, the possibly bad luck by keep finding the 'wrong' egg and using a lot more Enigma Stones than really needed, way more expensive than 200/300 nuggets.
But I'm also honest, I like the second option more. Maybe with the idea in the comments mentioned "Search again" instead of "choose the egg". So no one can say the shiny hunt is too easy now(even if it's only equal to other Tall Grass Hunts then, but anyway).

This was a lot of text, but I think it gives a good view about the main point, the RNG wich egg you get and all the problems caused by that.
Thanks for reading and hopefully this will finally be implemented. :3

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