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Tall Grass: Eon Update

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Sturmi
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Posted: Tue, 18/08/2020 12:07 (2 Months ago)


Tall Grass Eon Update

Hi Peeps!
Let's talk about the current situation hunting [email protected] in the tall grass. As all of us know, it is currently based on RNG which Egg we adopt after finding. That makes the whole hunt rather expensive and frustrating. Csoxi and me were talking about that for some time and we agreed on one thing: It would be awesome if there was a way to make sure we get an egg of the colour we want. And we found out we've got different ideas and views on that topic. We'd like to share those ideas with you and would be happy if you'd also share your thoughts and ideas with us. Maybe we can find a way to combine different approaches to get the result we all wish for.

a side note: we don't want to change the process of searching an egg in the tall grass.
the ideas we had are getting active AFTER we have chosen the grasspatch that contains the egg.


Let's have a look at Csoxis idea first. His main idea circles around an item that is called "the Eon Ticket". It grants the ability to choose which Egg (blue or red) you want to adopt from the Tall Grass.

The idea of The Eon Ticket is to be an one-time-use Item you can purchase for 200-300 Nuggets () at the Item Shop. This item will be active for the whole hunt/a whole chain. So if you decide to hunt 27 Shiny Latias in one chain, you can use one Eon Ticket. If you decide after that you want to hunt Latios, you will have to purchase another Eon Ticket.


I came up with another idea: After you found the Grass Patch that is containing the legendary egg, you'll get redirected to another (sub)site. And that's it.
There you may choose the egg you want; no magic attached. No hidden costs. It could look like this:




At this point, you may already have noticed that both ideas go pretty well together. But you also have noticed it is split into two pieces. That's exactly the point where we would like to listen to your ideas. What do you think and how do you feel about those two ideas? Is there something to add? Do you feel it might cause problems or confusion? How do you think about the price? Should people pay for this or should it be a free update for an existing feature? That's all up to you. :D

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Posted: Tue, 18/08/2020 20:38 (2 Months ago)
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Posted: Tue, 18/08/2020 20:57 (2 Months ago)
As much as id love for this to be implemented i think it would be kinda unfair to people who have wasted millions to hunt it already.

Though i guess if we overlook that point maybe instead of getting an option to choose which egg we want it could be something like one of the following options?
1)take egg or search again? Takw egg will add egg in party but searching again will refresh the search and u can hope next one is different coloured. Though there is a chance it might be same coloured.

2)Take the egg or search again? Taking egg will use the enigma stone and add the egg in party. Searching again will allow us to search again in the samw grass for the other coloured egg.
It will prevent it from being too easy bit also make it easier then is.

(Yes the grass will contain both coloured eggs at different parches)
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Posted: Tue, 18/08/2020 21:09 (2 Months ago)
It makes more sense to just use an enigma stone and be able to pick the egg you want without an extra upgrade. At least, in my opinion.

But anything that helps make hunting [email protected] easier is welcome haha, so I definitely support this anyway!
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Posted: Tue, 18/08/2020 21:14 (2 Months ago)
@absol: We (Sturmi and me) both hunted [email protected] But we still want to help the community to suffer less if possible...
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Posted: Tue, 18/08/2020 21:19 (2 Months ago)
I feel like this idea would make it too easy, enigma stones are already pretty cheap as is, this would move the latis from one of the more expensive shiny legendaries, into one of the cheapest. I get the point of making it easier to hunt, but people hunt it as is knowing the costs. It's not like getting egg storages only has a use in hunting latis, it also makes other hunts like event hunts easier since you can just store a bunch of event eggs before starting now that you have the space.

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Posted: Tue, 18/08/2020 21:29 (2 Months ago)
from someone that never hunted [email protected] I guess my opinion don't count- but like..
I think there should be a little of difficulty left,I like the "choose what egg you want" idea, but I feel that the eon ticket makes it like- a little too easy
I agree with the "choose what egg you want" idea
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Posted: Tue, 18/08/2020 21:34 (2 Months ago)
Everyone's suggestion matters... So any better ideas or corrections can help :)
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Posted: Tue, 18/08/2020 21:57 (2 Months ago)
Support. Just because something is difficult doesn't mean it's good or fun. And Enigma Stones are still somewhat pricy, and being forced to buy egg storages just for a attempt at a shiny is even more pricy. And say your storage gets full and you run into the one that will break your chain. That's likely going to result in both many enigma stones (and thus PD) being wasted, as well as months hunting being wasted.
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Posted: Tue, 18/08/2020 22:16 (2 Months ago)
the amount of pd needed for egg storage is a real big turn off for most people even if they love the shinies. considering this would make it far cheaper to hunt the thing then yeah im for it. also i voted so im not just posting i support this. for those that are against it are you even aware of the price for even 50 egg storage boxes?? and considering that people might need in excess of 100 if their hunt is real bad??
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Posted: Tue, 18/08/2020 22:19 (2 Months ago)
Just because people manage to amass ridiculous amounts of money for the horrendously expensive egg storages to hunt them doesn't excuse or give reason for it not to be made easier, and the reason they do it knowing the cost and the risk of it is because there is no alternative to it. Sure it comes with the benefit of multiple egg storages being useful for other things but that doesn't mean [email protected] isnt a horrible hunt that takes a ridiculous amount of preparation to even attempt right now which could result in a chain that ultimately screws you over anyway.

An example of such being Kimie's recent chain of Latias where she got a shiny at 87 and then had to break it by force of hand as the site gave her a Latios when her egg storage was filled with them, meaning she'd be without a second Latias. The argument of other people going through something and then it being made easier over time being 'unfair' is a bad one imo and just sounds kinda gatekeep-y. If it must be made not-so-easy to please some people, i'd argue the egg should show which one it is upon being found at least, so if its the wrong one you can choose to cancel the hunt and try again, resetting which Lati the game generates.

So, as stated, i'd agree with the second option or a spin on it being great. The people who spent millions hunting it aren't gonna lose their egg storages they can utilize for other troublesome hunts or a headstart to many of their others so ultimately they don't miss out on anything, and if they themselves want to, they can mention their shinies are obtained prior to the update and assign a sort of Legacy status to their own shinies.


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Posted: Tue, 18/08/2020 23:08 (2 Months ago)
If people don’t want the trouble, then they shouldn’t hunt it. Latios hunting is no doubt challenging, but it’s very rewarding to those who manage to do it
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Posted: Wed, 19/08/2020 00:36 (2 Months ago)
it is still challenging even without the need for storage boxes the need for searching tall grass for one and also you got to be very accurate on how many summons you need or you will be scrambling during your hunt to find more and even though they are cheap now they are still not as common as you d like to think.
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Posted: Wed, 19/08/2020 03:04 (2 Months ago)
Well if people who have hunted it in the past have no problem with it I don’t see no reason not to. 😊
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Posted: Wed, 19/08/2020 08:44 (2 Months ago)
First of all we want to thank you for taking your time to state your opinion, vote and in general NOT ignoring this suggestion. :D That's a lot already and we appreciate that.

Having different opinions is good and talking about that can help us to find new ideas. It doesn't matter if you have hunted [email protected] already. Every opinion has the same value since all of us play this game.

I know some of you feel worried about the recent changes. Some of you have the feeling ph is becoming too easy. While making money on this site is not as easy anymore. That's a fact, if you don't want to sell overpriced gems or summon items. Being worried is absolutely okay. But please try to keep in mind some things: even if those changes would be implemented somehow in the future (we don't know that, at the end riako and the staff have to decide that), it is still a hunt that needs preparation and a lot of time. We also think it should not be too easy, we're still talking about obtaining shiny legendary pokemon. But if we compare this hunt with other legendary shiny hunts we all can't ignore the fact that obtaining a shiny [email protected] is definetly way harder than any other legendary. I think that's what we all can agree on.

Let's have a look at hunting cosmog. I, for example, think that kind of hunt should be our goal for [email protected] Because, to hunt [email protected] also means to obtain 4 shinies in total. We also want to mega evolve them with an enigma pearl. I mean yes, first it may seem like: ugh.. It's just playing tall grass and putting that egg in your party. Where's the challenge again?
The challenge is to keep going doing this boring stuff until you got 4 shinies. Let's keep in mind in that time you can't hunt anything else. And even with the current changes to the tall grass, this is still time consuming. You have to make sure to come back to this site every 30 minutes to search for an egg. And you still have to search for 1 egg multiple times.
Before the tall grass changes, loketoke was hunting cosmog for 7 months without a break to obtain 4 shinies. Most of us do not know how much it takes to stick to something for such a long time, because people who have hunted something successfully do not (or just rarely) talk about such things. But let's be honest: As soon as we've completed a hunt, we are happy it's over. We want to move on. We all are doing hunts because of the shiny result, not because we think it's fun.

We don't want to make [email protected] lose value in any way. What we want is to have equal chances while doing a legendary hunt. If you think our ideas won't make this happen, please help us to discover a way that will.
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Posted: Wed, 19/08/2020 09:47 (2 Months ago)
I Support this Idea.
I was afraid of doing a [email protected] hunt cause of the Storage Box-Places. Buying them and Buy Premium-year with PD isn´t fitting well(that´s for sure my personal prob, cause I don´t want to buy Nugs with real money, but still a reason to stay away from a [email protected] hunt.).
Anyway, I had great respect on people, doing that hunt.
The first option is nice, but I like the second more. I would appreciate the Suggestion from Sturmi, or in the way Absol-Girl and Gregory-Lee suggest with 'Take or search again'.
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Posted: Wed, 19/08/2020 17:30 (2 Months ago)
I really like this idea, I personally could never save up enough for all those egg storage but I do love the [email protected] shinies.

I also had an idea personally of each having their own summon item, but that choosing an egg idea when you find them is a really good one I hadn't thought of. And kind of adorable.
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Posted: Sat, 22/08/2020 12:18 (2 Months ago)
200% Support ! i mean if you ever want to Hunt any of these you always need to buy enough egg storage's because getting these eggs were random ! ....but this update sounds reasonable.
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Posted: Mon, 24/08/2020 11:05 (2 Months ago)
80% support? it would be very useful for future hunters, i like the ticket idea and the subsite would also work as well, possibly in conjunction. personally i wouldnt use it as im not bothered about [email protected] and it definitely helps with saving hundreds of egg storages.
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Posted: Sun, 20/09/2020 08:50 (1 Month ago)
Support, but I think it would be enough if you can simply choose which egg you want, because you still need to collect the items and find the egg spot in the tall grass... why should it be harder than other Tall Grass Hunts to get the egg you want?
So I don't think asking to pay for another item would be really fair, but ultimatly it would be up to Riako to decide that XD