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As the name suggests, a chest (not Mystery Box, a Chest) that has the capabilities to give out virtually anything available on this site. (Obviously there are exceptions).

Also, in addition to rewards, user can also receive punishments. (discussed later on)

Now, before anyone of you starts saying "Hey, we've seen this one already" or "This is too over powered to be here", bear with me till the end.

How to obtain this


Rewards


Punishments


Many more ideas can be innovated into this -- more the minds, less the errors.

Important FAQs:


Now, it took me 2 days to think of all of this and to write them, so I hope it is at least open to public voting instead of getting rejected outright.

Thanks.

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Please no.

Honestly, this would be a very interesting idea if the punishments didn't exist. Particularly the loss of items one. I understand they're supposed to be a nerf for the 'generous' payout of the box, but imo, the risk is not worth the reward in this case.

A risk VS reward system only really works if the reward outways the risk. 'Is it worth all this time and effort and possible failure?' You seem to think it is, but I disagree.

Now, the possibility of obtaining 4 summon items at once is intriguing, but is it worth loosing 10 of the ones I currently have in the process?

Quote from Punishments

Since they can reward items, they can also remove any amount of any item from the bag (higher the number, lower the chance; More the number of items you possess, more will disappear).

So, you didn't specify the amount, but I take this to mean if you have something less than a hundred, you'll loose just under 10 items of that type. If you have over a hundred, you'll loose more than 10, and so on. Problem I have with this is that a risk vs reward system only really works if the risk exists within that system somewhat. Take the Coin flip game in the game center for example: The whole point of the game is that you can place your bet in to be possibly rewarded with double the GC you put in, the risk is that you could loose your bet if you aren't lucky. Loosing game chips is obs not nearly the the same as loosing your bag items. In this case, you'd be loosing something that you likely obtained through other means, like summon items from mystery boxes/buying them. Say you were saving up for a shiny hunt, and had about 150 rubies for that hunt. Say you went through the effort of getting this box, opened it, only to loose 10 of said rubies? That is a lot of value to be loosing in a single chest.

Also, one may be able to say the 'nerf' is the difficulty to obtain the box. As you describe it, it would be about twice the difficulty of a mega stone + 10 summons items. That, plus the fact that you'd have to wait at the very least over a month just trying to get fragments for this thing. Honestly, alone I don't think this is worth the effort, certainly not with the risk of loosing my hard-earned items! Not to mention, even if I do earn a reward, I'm more likely to obtain gems or mystery boxes, which I could easily get through the game center or rumble respectively.

All in all, I don't think this box is worth it. Even if I can get increased shiny chance, it's just too much effort and too high a chance to fail imo.

No support here.

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BlackReshiram is completely right, I don't see any way to risk this thing, especially since I can even get punishments and not ONLY valuable items, so the rarity and punishment details give me a big no to tell to this suggestion.

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Title: Woah woah hol up

When I first looked at the prizes, I was like, woah… that’s really good tbh

then when I looked at the punishments

dang. that ain’t good

Firstly, I’d like to state the way to counter these punshiments stated.

1. Putting all valuable items inside a PT to yourself. If you are a experienced user, chances are you have a lot of different items, and won’t be little enough to trigger a shiny chance decrease even if you dump all your valuable items in a PT.

2. Reducing trainer exp? I don’t think people really care for that stuff lol, Not sure how to decrease the Egg exp nerf tho, so that may be a good idea.

3. well well, that can’t hurt me if I don’t have premium :) but in all seriousness, this will encourage something which will be stated at point number 5.

4. Evil Karp’s curse: Also will be stated in point number 5, but I wouldn’t mind more karps in my box lol.


Finally, point number 5:

The above punishments may have one simple solution that many people may resort to, and that’ll be multi accounts. They’ll simply send the chest over to a alt account to open, and there’s really no setbacks.

Unless you have a idea to counter point number 5?

Nononononono

Is a good idea, but the punishments... i think it doesnt worth it, especially since the box is extremely rare. I think the fact that the chest is very rare is already enough nerf

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I agree, the punishments aren't worth it, especially since the chance of a punishment is higher :(

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I like the rewards the chest can yield, but the punishments (especially losing items and premium days...ouch) are much too harsh for me to want to take a chance on.

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like others have said, i think the punishments outweigh the rewards, and therefore would immediately make me not want to try it. even without the punishments, though, i feel like this would be way too difficult/time consuming and not enough worth the effort. i do like the concept a lot, but i think the combination of difficulty + punishments makes it rather unappealing, at least to me. for now, i'll just vote that i won't use it, but i do like the concept! i just think it could be laid out better

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No support, at least for the punishments, because as others have said, between the difficulty to obtain and the risk of losing valuables outweighs the benefits.

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Title: Ultimate Gamble?

If this somehow does get implemented, I'm probably selling this thing for... 10,000 maybe? Could end up going for less. But yeah, the main problem is the fact it's over a 50% chance I'll lose something after getting 10 rarer-than-summons fragments to create the thing. I don't consider myself a gambler, especially with what would be a lot of work for probably a net loss.

If I need 10 fragments that are rarer than its rewards, then why don't I just go for the rewards? At least how I'm thinking it, shiny hunting gives a better probability than 10 very rare fragments that might result in 1 guarantee of a shiny, or a mere 0.5% increase.

Your response seems to basically be that the userbase is being rewarded too much, so we should try harming the economy with massive gambles on this "completely random chest". That would probably better go to the staff on how good of an idea is, but for the people that want more stuff? I don't see how we're going to support the opposite. At currently 15% approval, this isn't happening. Neat experiment though, but try again with a 10% chance of loss.

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This suggestion has received less than 60% support and was moved to rejected.

Total votes: 51
Support ratio: 15.7%

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