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Egg Radar: The GRANNY Upgrade

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Elunair
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Posted: Sun, 19/04/2020 09:20 (4 Years ago)
Hi Peeps,

I have to admit I haven't found anything similar to this via forum search,
so I'd like to suggest some kinda "new" feature for the current tall grass situation. Those of you, who had the fun with hunting legendaries, might feel the pain I do. Especially if you - like me - don't want to use some 3rd party tools or draw on paper to keep in mind where you already have searched for the egg. Anyways, I've been thinking about a small visual change that might help us to keep track but isn't destroying the tall grass feature in general. Also, in my IDEA this is an optional feature. So if the tall grass - like it is now - is exactly to your liking, you wouldn't have to change anything.


What's the idea in general?

The idea is, to make sure you realize: Hey, I've already searched this bush. So I can move on and try another one. In this example, I could only use tallgrass graphics of easy rarity of our wiki, since I have to wait for my tallgrass to be accessable 50 more minutes...*cough* >u> Let's imagine it is about the legendary tall grass field.

You visit the tall grass for the first time:


You've made your coice, sadly there wasn't an egg. So you come back as soon as the cooldown runs out and the tall grass looks like this:


Maybe you just came back the next day, because life happened. And now you can clearly see: Aaaah. See, I tried once. Ok, then i take another bush.
And after cooldown, maybe again on the next day, you visit the tall grass again:


And so on and on. That way the tall grass could be done even if you don't have the time or feel like keeping track of it yourself. After getting your egg, the dark bushes reset and turn to normal.

Ok ok, I think we got how the idea works. How could this get implemented on the site without it getting in the way of the people who like the tallgrass as it is?

Since it's not a necessary tool it could be an upgrade for our existing Egg Radar Chips of X Rarity. One idea is to make it obtainable for every rarity. What if, after you got every Egg Radar Chip, our lovely daycare owner is dragging you into another chat after visiting the tall grass for a legendary? Maybe he'd tell you something like this:




In this example you could get Egg Radar (Legendary Chip: Granny Edition Upgrade) while visiting the shop would give the chance to buy the upgrade for all other remaining rarities. So, everyone might be free to choose how they'd like to play.

In case User X decides to hit the NOPE Button, the legendary upgrade could just move to the shop. That way, if User X decides later he/she wants to have it, it is still obtainable but not for free anymore.




Info: this is by far not a perfect idea, but it might give us a chance to find a solution for this together. What do you think? Which negative aspects might appear because of this idea? Is there anything else that should be added? Or, do you think it's not a thing people should use in general? Please take your time to explain your thoughts about this.
Thanks for visiting this suggestion.





Additional adjustions for the tall grass



suggested by Zarkesh

Quote from ZarkeshPlease mark already found eggs! (which cant be adopted because of a full party) they have already been found and therefore the "challenge" is already done). Alternatively we could get the chance to clear one spot in our party when we find an egg to adopt it without having to "search" again.


If an egg was found at the tall grass, while there was no free spot in the party, it could just stay there until the user grabs it. For that time it would replace the patch where it was found. That way we don't have to search the egg again.

Example for how it might look like:

BitterLemon
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Posted: Sun, 19/04/2020 09:47 (4 Years ago)

Title: Easier Bug Report - 100% Support

Yes, please, this is amazing and would be a life saver!

I love how it presents the upgrade as optional, and how it only greys out the patch of grass you clicked.

Another positive to this would be easier Bug report. As of now, there is no way to report a bug in the Tall Grass since you can't prove egg was supposed to be there when you clicked patch. It happened to me, multiple times and it is beyond frustrating to get message "far away" on a patch of grass when you had "very close!" message just an hour ago right next to this one. But with this suggestion, I could just backtrack my moves and prove a bug occurred and egg moved.

LucarioLover99
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Posted: Sun, 19/04/2020 17:06 (4 Years ago)
Yes, I agree! That would make (tall grass) life much easier, great suggestion!
Shapecore
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Posted: Sun, 19/04/2020 17:07 (4 Years ago)
this would help a bunch! i'm sick of accidentally pushing the same patches :/
kelbunny13
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Posted: Sun, 19/04/2020 17:12 (4 Years ago)
Support to the max!

As someone who struggles with memory, and who wants to eventually do a Cosmog hunt, this would make life so much easier!

I promise to do all in my power to see us through this safely
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Posted: Sun, 19/04/2020 17:24 (4 Years ago)
Yesss plsss. This would be extremely helpful for us with bad memories T-T
DarkenedShadowCreature
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Posted: Sun, 19/04/2020 17:30 (4 Years ago)
FULL SUPPORT!!!

I'm terrible at memorizing things so this would help
sprigatito
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Posted: Sun, 19/04/2020 17:57 (4 Years ago)
full support,I always have a hard time remember which patch of grass I've looked in already and I do the same one by mistake multiple times,this would be extremely helpful
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-Drago
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Posted: Mon, 20/04/2020 00:00 (4 Years ago)
Full support

My memory is the worst so I always press on the same patch

chisaii
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Posted: Mon, 20/04/2020 03:05 (4 Years ago)
Full support!

And, yes please!
Kamini
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Posted: Mon, 20/04/2020 03:17 (4 Years ago)
While I do support this, there is something I would like to add. What if it’s like that for a reason? Getting legendaries (or any Pokémon really) is supposed to have a little bit of a challenge. If this was added, it would be like taking marbles out of a jar and keep going until you get a specific marble. It wouldn’t be that hard, just time consuming. What if they did this to the Concentration game? They would keep the cards flipped over until you finally got them all. Not very challenging, is it?
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Posted: Mon, 20/04/2020 11:01 (4 Years ago)
@cosmixx, its already challenging enough. and before you say "just write down what tiles we've clicked", its not that easy to keep track of.

full support.

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BitterLemon
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Posted: Mon, 20/04/2020 11:21 (4 Years ago)

Title: @Cosmixx

Cosmixx, have you tried shiny hunting legendary from the tall grass?

It has 12x12 tiles, and 1 hour cool down. That means your egg is in one of 144 grass patches and you have to figure out where. Not only you have to remember to come back every hour, but you also have to remember where was the last time you clicked and what was the message. And now imagine you finally figured where the egg is after getting "very close" message only to get "far away". It is not challenging, it is extremely unfair. It's already challenging and time consuming enough, it wouldn't ruin the feature.

Your comparison to concentration game makes no sense. You don't hunt legendaries there, it's very easy to get egg, there is no 1h cool down, cards don't move, if you make a mistake it won't cost you time, and if there is a bug, you'd be able to screenshot it.

Tall grass feature is flawed, and worst part is not being able to report the bug. This would solve that problem.
Elunair
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Posted: Mon, 20/04/2020 11:54 (4 Years ago)
Thanks to everyone for telling your true opinion about this and for voting. I really appreciate it and hope you'll continue telling us what you think. : D


@cosmixx thanks for your feedback! I think the fact that you point out this things is a good reason to talk about the tall grass in general.

If we all are brutally honest, then the process of picking a patch in the tall grass is not a challenge at all. We visit the site, pick a patch and hope for the best. That's it. No brainpower needed, not even strategy, nor something else. It's a fact that if you are a lucky person, or just persistent, you'll get an egg. Sooner or later. Right?

What makes this whole topic a challenge, is the fact that we're all using the tall grass in a different way (rarity, visiting it just a couple times a day and so on) so, the only component that makes the tall grass unbearable right now, is not the process of visiting and picking a patch, but the time it takes to get the egg in general. I think the cool down timer of the different rarities shouldn't be touched at all, to guarantee it is still not easy - you should spend some time to get a legendary egg. But as a person that can't camp at the tall grass for multiple days in a row without a break, I think it would be more fair to make sure you don't have to pick a patch twice. Because at this point this would mean you get punished for being not as active as other players, who are able to keep in mind which patches they picked because they are able to do that all day long.

But let's keep in mind we're all different. That's why I think this has to be an optional feature. People should be able to decide for themself how they want to play the tall grass search.
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Posted: Mon, 20/04/2020 11:59 (4 Years ago)
I support I'm pretty sure I clicked the same patch of grass three times in a row.

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Posted: Tue, 21/04/2020 18:51 (4 Years ago)
I like this suggestion so much, I gave up finding my Legend eggs in the Tall Grass, the amount of patches is insane!


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Kamini
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Posted: Tue, 21/04/2020 19:21 (4 Years ago)
Yes, I do understand the challenge of shiny hunting a legendary in the tall grass. While I have never personally done it, I can imagine how excruciating it is to attempt it. I actually didn’t have much trouble finding my first Latias egg in the grass, even with terrible memory. Reminder that I said I support the idea, I just gave something to think about.

And yes @gorgon, I know it isn’t that easy. I’ve tried to do that in my Torchic hunt and it barely helped because I used a “program” that was supposed to help, but closing the tab made me lose my progress, and it’s difficult to match exactly where the patch you clicked is.

@BitterLemon I do agree that it is slightly unfair, but at least it gives you a hint. I remember doing a honedge hunt in a 4x4 I believe, and it said that the egg was far away. I clicked the other side after the cool down and it said that the egg was also far away. Also, I was using the concentration game as an example, I wasn’t applying this exact suggestion to my statement. Yes, I know that we don’t hunt legendaries there and yes I do know that it’s easy to get an egg, cards don’t move, mistakes won’t cost time, and about the lack of a cool down. To be honest, I have just as much trouble with the tall grass that I do with the concentration game. That is why I used it as an example.
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Posted: Tue, 21/04/2020 20:08 (4 Years ago)
Tbh...i usually dont like ideas that make stuff "just" easier but in this case:

many users already use excel or other programms as a helper for the tall grass and its not that hard to do so...

in theory we could go even further and mark all the bushes that are taken out by the text (like everything thats not "very close" when the egg is supposed to be "very close") but thats up for discussion.

So as you might see, in general i totally support that idea, but would totally add one small other thing:
Please mark already found eggs! (which cant be adopted because of a full party) they have already been found and therefore the "challenge" is already done). Alternatively we could get the chance to clear one spot in our party when we find an egg to adopt it without having to "search" again.
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Posted: Tue, 21/04/2020 22:08 (4 Years ago)
YOU GUYS CANT DITCH THIS IDEA! NOT IF I SHIFT INTO MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE SUPPORT!


ADMIN AND OTHERS MUST ADD THIS IDEA!


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Posted: Tue, 21/04/2020 23:48 (4 Years ago)
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