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First person who changed its haircut is the one who really had the 1OS pokemon, if someone evolved later a really old furfrou into Santa's the ID will be lower but that doesn't mean it's the first on site
EDIT: that's why taking a picture of the pokedex with the one and only pokemon/shiny is so helpful for this thread most of the times
The pre-evolution was hatched later than the evolution.
Bulbasaur/Ivysaur/Venusaur [normal] all have the same ID, because pokémon 33 [the first Venusaur] was also the first Bulbasaur and first Ivysaur.
I know that evolutions can have a higher ID [like 186] than its pre-evolution [like 56], but if your evolution has ID 68 [for example] it's simply not possible for the pre-evolution to have ID 294, because the evolved form was ealier, so its pre-evolution was as well [as it would've also been ID 68 before it was evolved.
Maybe I'm missing a criterium or something, because some lines do have the same number throughout, but I simply don't think that a non-evolved FoS could have a higher ID [as in 'later adopted'], than an evolved FoS.
disclaimer - All numbers [aside from Bulbasaur's] are fake, merely used to try and bring my point accross correctly. If my assumption is wrong and this is just a waste of time, I do apologise for that.
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Except that I'm seeing [in the list] that the oldest Wimpod [with ID 143] is counted as FoS, instead of the oldest Golisopod [with ID 68]
A younger, pre-evolution, is counted as FoS rather than the older evolved form, which is why I asked my question in the first place.
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Im sure that happens more often than not honestly with new pokemon being added.
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I don't know how do you people feel about that, but honestly, it's unusual to two different pokemon from the same evolution family both have the first on site title just because the real first on site didn't evolve.
At this moment, there is no ideal solution that everyone would like.
If we would allow ID to matter, then all first stage evolutions can evolve and take over the title(s), which would be a mess, while without it, for many pokemon is impossible to determine their first on site.
(All this bothered me since long time ago, just saying, doesn't have to do anything with the recent discussion)
FoS means FoS, regardless of ID, but it's simply impossible for a base pokémon to be FoS, if there's an evolution [NOT Forme Change] that's older.
[which is what the discussion was about]
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Edit: added the Prison Bottle since the discussion here about "First On Site" is so fascinating to me.
"Bingpot."
I do believe VelvetNightmare hatched the first shiny Jangmo-o that they then fully evolve to a shiny Kommo-o