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Remodify Bill's words for MissingNo. quest
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Posted: Sun, 18/12/2016 20:51 (8 Years ago)
PH has no control over what parents deem safe that is up to them. But this is getting side tracked.
Posted: Sun, 18/12/2016 21:02 (8 Years ago)
Edit: Just want to clarify that I couldn't care less if it is changed or not. It wouldn't hurt to have to changed, but I personally see no reason to do so.
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Posted: Sun, 18/12/2016 21:58 (8 Years ago)
And all those who are making suggestions that will make PH safer, I agree with you and thank you.
Posted: Mon, 19/12/2016 05:33 (8 Years ago)
Can you please point out where it explicitly says swearing of any kind is forbidden?
Keep in mind we're talking about the minor, non-offensive cuss word, 'damn'.
Posted: Thu, 22/12/2016 17:00 (8 Years ago)
-It does NOT matter if it's not considered a swear word in other countries
-It does NOT matter if many children say it nowadays
-It does NOT matter if you do not find it offensive, because nearly ALL of your older players DO.
-Many people on this site use "Wtf", "FML", or "FUUUUU" on this site. We all know what it means. And if you consider "****" as offensive but not that when it is THE EXACT SAME THING, then your opinion is illogical and invalid.
-You do realize that there are MANY people on this site who were raised PROPERLY by their parents and who abhor cussing, right?
The fact that you are using the improper parenting of other people to justify your desire to swear and cuss is abhorrent. There is NEVER an excuse or reason to cuss. One of the reasons why children do cuss nowadays is because in addition to their parents not caring about their future, it's gotten to the point where not even their teachers can correct them without repercussions.
So why don't YOU make the first move?
BAN ALL SWEAR WORDS ON THIS SITE. Take it into your own hands to teach the younger generation what their parents don't care to teach them.
Posted: Thu, 22/12/2016 19:30 (8 Years ago)
case ended
Posted: Thu, 22/12/2016 23:04 (8 Years ago)
Posted: Fri, 23/12/2016 00:28 (8 Years ago)
But, I know that "that word" means "curse or condemn" though. c:
But, I don't like it when a certain word is used in an "offensive" way, obvious or not.. like, it's "attacking" a person on purpose.
Now, that's an awful "swear" word. A big no-no.. :/
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Posted: Fri, 23/12/2016 00:57 (8 Years ago)
@Soviet It says swearing of any kind is forbidden, and that includes the minor ones, so case closed.
And all those who are making suggestions that will make PH safer, I agree with you and thank you.
Posted: Fri, 23/12/2016 01:32 (8 Years ago)
"1.1 PokéHeroes should be a friendly community-based browsergame for every age. To ensure this, it is forbidden to use offensive swear words"
It says offensive swear words, not swearing of any kind. That's what Soviet is saying, so I don't understand where you are seeing "swearing of any kind"
Posted: Fri, 23/12/2016 01:36 (8 Years ago)
in this definition i dont see ANYTHING that says that it's a swear word :v
its like hell ya know
people tell ya not to say it
but its mentioned in holy things like the bible for example
it expresses anger or surprise :v
so i really dont see why they need ta change it lol
Posted: Fri, 23/12/2016 01:47 (8 Years ago)
But personally, I think damn is pretty mild so no support.
Posted: Fri, 23/12/2016 03:22 (8 Years ago)
damn and hell arent swear words
you gotta be glass-levels of sensible if your offended with that
even when they arent directed at you (they CANT be directed at anyone)
tbh
Posted: Fri, 23/12/2016 04:53 (8 Years ago)
Generations change, things change.
Cursing doesn't change anyone, if they want to be punk or 'hip' and think cursing is cool, that's their problem and decision to be like so. PokèHeroes doesn't even promote these offensive cuss words to be said on this site. Damn is a word used to express anger but also considered a swear in the old times. Let me remind you that way back many things have been changed. For the good.
Parents need to change, their parenting methods may make it seem like they're doing their best to raise their child but things still happens. Kids are growing up to be however they want even with proper parenting. 90% of my high school doesn't respect their teacher because they want to be 'Cool' and because of what kind of friends they have [subsequently, they cuss a lot in chinese and broken english]. It's their choice to do so and bad parenting isn't the problem. I've seen a father bring a wooden slab infront of the school and shout+hit his child right infront of other parents just because he had chosen to be friend with the wrong part of the crowd. No one did anything. Parents are humans too, you guys aren't perfect and your methods varies, not all parents would agree with one thing.
Humans are also fragile organic life matters that have emotions. Swearing has been scientifically proven to reduce your stress and compress a strong, negative emotion. Someone that cuss when in pain feels a bit. Now that is a reason to swear. Subsequently, it's to show someone's displeasure, which is perfectly fine.
Posted: Fri, 23/12/2016 06:28 (8 Years ago)
EDIT: Also the site linked to check for swear words (http://wordsafety.com/) also says that it is a swear word, and PH goes by the site. So, I think it (the word "Damn") should be removed.
Posted: Fri, 23/12/2016 10:20 (8 Years ago)
I've never considered "damn" even close to a curse, but that is my opinion. Riako runs this website, and if he thinks it is okay, then I suppose it's alright. Riako does know what he's doing, after all.
Besides, as many have already stated,
"Damn" is not offensive, and shouldn't be considered as such. It is a minor swear, not major. I learned this swear when I was 7, and my parents did not care about hiding me from it. Besides, children nowadays probably know much more than just "damn", considering today's slang. They will learn one way or another--it doesn't matter. If the child tells their parents about the swear, there is nothing the website (PH) or Riako, himself, can do about that.
I rest my case.
Posted: Fri, 23/12/2016 12:56 (8 Years ago)
While I agree damn is a really minor swear word, it is clear that it is not offensive at all. As many users stated before, the rule clearly says that only offensive swear words are not allowed. Honestly, if the word from Bill's dialogue would be replaced or removed, it wouldn't affect me and probably it won't affect 90% of the userbase. When I was little, my parents swore a lot, I honestly didn't like to swear but you know, it happens when you are in pain or feel horrible, most of the time to reduce the pain...But going back to what most people said, it is not really considered a swear word, just like hell...
Ah, also I've seen that
Ah and one more thing...The root of this word is from the Latin word ''damnare'' which means "damage, ruin". I mean, yes, it has a theological meaning but the word itself is from the Latin language.
Posted: Fri, 23/12/2016 14:49 (8 Years ago)
The website also says that Cake sounds similar to a swear sword that should be avoided to be said. So now let's warn users for that and remove the word cake in anniversary gift page as 'Choose your favorite flavor of food made of mixed sweet concoctions. Now with layers!' That page, while listed damn as a cuss word is a website for the general idea of what is a cuss word. It's a direct match for a cuss word, best not use it- but it didn't say anything about it being offensive, did it?
Posted: Fri, 23/12/2016 18:37 (8 Years ago)
Just saying, i got raised in a familly that didn't accept any bad words, and i ended saying a lot of them, especialy right now, this is not a question of how you got raise but of personality lol.
You must be extremely sensitive if you cry for the word "damn"
And oml the site that they use for know if a word is bad or nah is absolutely not working for french and it's hilarious
Just get over it, no one is never really polite
Posted: Fri, 23/12/2016 18:55 (8 Years ago)
Also, the linked site is used as a guideline, not as an end-all conclusion. We know the site isn't perfect, which is pretty much why we don't follow it blindly. It's useful to some extent, which is why we share it. If common sense says one thing and the site says something weird, we follow common sense :p
In short, Bill isn't offending/attacking anyone with the language he uses, so I see no reason to get it changed. If Riako feels differently, he's free to do so, of course. To me, the votes speak for themselves, with over 80% voting against the suggestion.
[And just a small correction - it is possible to direct them at someone, it just isn't the case here]
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