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Quote from Riako

I see some comments saying that certain Pokemon should be excluded from the EggDex count.

I personally disagree with this. We are talking about shiny hunting literally the ultimate Pokemon. Mewtwo, Deoxys, etc. are meant to be the ultimate rewards for the Dex.
If someone really reaches the point where shiny Arceus (or the others) becomes a serious concern for their collection (e.g. shiny Dex), then I'm convinced that they're also able to get their hands on a ditto egg, the Regi eggs etc.

For some, these are hard to get, sure. But none of them are impossible.
And again: hunting these shiny Dex rewards is like the "ultimate long-term goal". It's not something a player should aim towards after "only" a few hundred hours of game time

Full agree. I also think that excluding certain eggdexes wouldn't be a good idea.

I'm aware that some of the eggdexes can be tricky to be obtained (like magearna or some gem legends) but we don't have to forget that this is a boost reward. You can still hunt those legends without the boost, but slower.

There are plenty of species to hunt before these legends and, under my point of view, this boost is thought for those who completed most part of the goals in game.

Also excluding them, just because they are hard to get, will just make it easy for everyone to obtain the boosts.


It's meant to be challenging, that's why there are some people (like me) try and get 100% egg dex for each region so it feels like you fully completed it. Or even more challenging get 100% OT for all of the mons.

If the game becomes too easy, people will get bored. People who have completed all their pokedex can now have another goal if this gets implemented.

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I don't think ANY eggs should be excluded from the percentage. For pretty much the same reason others have been saying.

If you do a prize for every eggdex section, then I think the ever asked for increased event breeding chance for the Emera eggdex would be great. There's no reward for the regular completion, but people who have the eggdex completed for that are more likely to be the people who are shiny/SM hunting events.

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Note aside regarding the suggestion some people did in comments about eggdex reward for emera pokemon:
I full agree that an increased event breeding chance for the Emera eggdex would be great. But I see a couple problems on it:

1) Unlike regional pokedexes, Emera pokemon are always growing with every new event release. So, the best way to implement it would be to set an specific amount of eggdexes to accomplish the reward for this specific region.

2) There are still some pokemon whose eggdex are unobtainable (color magikarps mostly, because retro tentacool belongs to a different group). Giving them a way to be obtained or deleting their eggdex would be required.

May I add a suggestion for retro and emera eggdex rewards? As of the moment we have 37 retro eggdex and 195 emera eggdex (183 excluding the colored karps).

Maybe for every 5 retro eggdex entries, the shiny chance for retro (currently 2%) will increase by 0.1% or 0.05%. With 35 entries, that would be a 2.7% or 2.35% shiny chance

As for emera eggdex, there is another suggestion about a way to increase the chance of getting event eggs.

The reward for the emera eggdex could be: every 20 eggdex entries could slightly increase event eggs chance (1% / 0.5%) OR shiny chance (0.05%). With 180 entries, the event egg chance increase would be 9% / 4.5%, while event shiny chance would be (with max chance pokeradar and shiny charm) 1.775% (non premium) / 3.2% (premium)

I think one of the problems this could cause is that emera mon could get more expensive, since now people have a reason to buy event breeding pairs, especially for new and/or inactive users. Also, for retros/unbreedable emeramon, it could encourage everyone to participate in the event for the egg instead of just buying from auction, but it's also troublesome for those who missed it, since that means they'd have to wait for a rerun, or buy the event egg from shop (like Santa birb and Shadow Lugia)

Bumping this with actual statistics on how ludicrous the Alola dex is at the moment. If it's almost impossible to have a living Alola dex right now, how are people going to be able to get a full Eggdex?

There are 28 Magearna Master Ball on site. This makes it the rarest Pokemon by frequency. In fact, Magearna Ultra Ball is only 3 places away, being the 4th rarest with 53 onsite.

Of the 10 people on Most Pokedex Entries, 4 have a full dex. Of the remaining 6, 5 are missing Magearna Master Ball.

A dex should not require two time-gated RNG Pokemon which are also both on the Lowest Frequency ranklist.

If not for the most established dex lending service on site having a Magearna MB, I think Alola dex would be flat out impossible for most. I think I'm allowed to say this because I won that voucher with a 2% chance (and a lot more people were trying to help get it too!) If not for the combined effort of a community, Alola dex would not be completable for a lot more people.

I agree that dexes should have an element of difficulty, but dex completion is an early to mid-game goal compared to SM or legend hunting. We shouldn't require that same level of spending for lategame goals like SM/shiny legend hunting (when it's intended to help with said goals), and the cost should not be several times higher than other complete dexes. And this will be much worse if we're talking about eggdex completion

Alola also happens to have Minior, which is arguably worse than Unown as their Event rarity means they're not available from lab or Gem Collector, and 24 legendary/Ultra Beast eggdexes, far more than any other dex (I did not include Type:Null though that will probably be part of the eggdex completion)

This shouldn't be implemented until the balance of the Alola dex can be fixed.

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Number of legendaries/expensive mons in every dex (Dex completion rewards not included)
Kanto: 5 (Mew, Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres, Ditto)
Johto: 6 (Celebi, Raikou, Entei, Suicune, Ho-Oh, Lugia)
Hoenn: 9 (Jirachi, Regirock, Regice, Registeel, Latias, Latios, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza)
Sinnoh: 14 (Uxie, Azelf, Mesprit, Dialga, Palkia, Heatran, Regigigas, Giratina, Giratina (Origin), Cresselia, Manaphy, Darkrai, Shaymin, Shaymin (Sky))
Unova: 19 (Victini, Cobalion, Terrakion, Virizion, Tornadus, Tornadus (Therian), Thundurus, Thundurus (Therian), Landorus, Landorus (Therian), Reshiram, Zekrom, Kyurem, White Kyurem, Black Kyurem, Keldeo, Keldeo (Resolute), Meloetta, Meloetta (Pirouette)
Kalos: 10 (Xerneas, Yveltal, Zygarde Core, Zygarde Cell, Zygarde 10%, Zygarde 50%, Zygarde Complete, Hoopa, Hoopa (Unbound), Volcanion)
Alola: 33 (Tapu Koko, Tapu Lele, Tapu Bulu, Tapu Fini, Cosmog, Cosmoem, Solgaleo, Lunala, Nihilego, Buzzwole, Pheromosa, Xurkitree, Celesteela, Kartana, Guzzlord, Poipole, Naganadel, Stakataka, Blacephalon, Necrozma, Necrozma (Dawn Wings), Necrozma (Dusk Mane), Ultra Necrozma, Magearna, Magearna (Poke Ball), Magearna (Great Ball), Magearna (Ultra Ball), Magearna (Master Ball), Marshadow, Zenith Marshadow, Zeraora, Meltan, Melmetal)
Galar: 16 (Zacian. Crowned Zacian, Zamazenta, Crowned Zamazenta, Eternatus, Kubfu, Urshifu (Rapid Strike), Urshifu (Single Strike), Zarude, Regieleki, Regidrago, Glastrier, Spectrier, Galarian Articuno, Galarian Zapdos, Galarian Moltres)

Hisui Dex is tiny and hence not included. I do think I can confidently say that two Enamorus plus all the Celestica Flutes and Black Augurite and Peat Block etc will not cost more than 5 million PD

Full support!
Big achievements call for considerable rewards (otherwise it wouldn't be a game it'd be like uhhhh real life? Maybe?)
For what MeepTheMareep02 said, that is a valid point, however instead of putting it off completely I would suggest one of two things-
1) It could be released for other all other regions excluding Alola first, until this balancing issue can be addressed
2) The alternate Pokeball Magearna's (Great, Ultra and Master) could be moved to Emera dex. It has always surprised me that that is not already in the Emera Dex, as these forms aren't in any Pokemon games. Actually, I'm surprised that Pokeball Magearna in general is in the Alolan Dex, since it is only obtainable as an event mon in the games! I don't think anyone would object to these mons, currently RNG-locked, being moved to a Emera dex rather than being in a non-growing regional dex

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Nitpicky sidenote, please ignore me

Quote from Riako

are increased by 300%. For example, if you complete the Sinnoh EggDex, your Arceus breeding chances are three-times as high.

Slightly confusing, increased by 300% is x4, but if you say increased by a factor of 300%, then it would be x3, but you provided the example to clarify, it's kinda a moot point and I don't think anyone was confused by this so- I'm going to stop talking now