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choice to opt out of or hide options related to gambling

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Trin1030
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Posted: Fri, 25/11/2022 12:23 (2 Months ago)
As someone who personally struggles with gambling-related mechanics, (mystery boxes, claw machines, and roughly four of the game center games) I believe there should be one main option that completely excludes you from seeing things that rely on heavy gambling (except for the Game Center). I believe there could also be a second option to ban yourself from the game center.

It should look something like this:


With the first box checked, for example, if you head over to the black friday deal, you won't see the Black Friday Box option anymore:


This is beneficial because it prevents people with impulsive behavior to 'waste' all of their pd and/or their nuggets just on a slight chance for something great. If they can't even see the deal, then they (most likely) aren't able to be tempted by it.

This option could also prevent the player from opening mystery boxes/viewing mystery boxes/keys in the item market, but there could be a third setting option for that as well. (To be fair, I'm not sure how hard that would be to code in)

Now, here's my reasoning for the second option: gambling addicts are able to go to casinos to ask to be banned. Seeing as people are able to do that, it should be the same for the Game Center. My idea on making this work is that instead of a permanent ban, you can be temporarily banned (multiple options to select: the minimum being a month, maximum being six months maybe?) and once the duration ends, you're able to be unbanned by him and play again. When you try entering the Game Center while temporarily banned from it, he can tell you how many days/months are left until you're allowed back in. This will let players continue to gain GGC from interacting, it just prevents them from spending it if they're struggling to save it up.*

* during things like advent calendars and other aspects of the game that may require something done in the game center (raylong, dream shop task), you should be able to request to be unbanned for either a few hours/that day to be able to complete the task. you would be unable to access it after the time period has passed and there should be a cooldown before you are able to request a temporary unban again.

For the Game Center, it could look something like this when you try to go there:


Or, when unbanned:


I'm open to making changes to my suggestion based on feedback :)
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Posted: Sun, 11/12/2022 14:31 (1 Month ago)
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Trin1030
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Posted: Fri, 23/12/2022 16:32 (1 Month ago)
bumping this since its been a while and ive added a little note about what should be done during advent calendars (and similar events) regarding the temporary game center ban
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Posted: Sun, 08/01/2023 15:34 (23 Days ago)
as someone whose literal job once was checking people's ids to see if they're banned from gambling before letting them into a gambling hall (and who thus had to do a course/workshop/seminar on addiction and gambling): please implement this!
real-world gambling allows you to ban yourself from gambling, and so should this site's (any site's, really) gambly games.
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Posted: Sun, 08/01/2023 15:38 (23 Days ago)
Should it be a timed thing or a check/un-check whenever you want thing? What happens if someone doesn't understand the setting and accidentally bans themselves from a game feature for 1-6 months (however long it is)?
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Posted: Sun, 08/01/2023 15:44 (23 Days ago)
i'd say timed otherwise you can just give in to impulses anyways, you'd just have to uncheck one box more to do stuff
that's how it works in the real world too, you're just banned for however long you (or someone on your behalf) said you should be banned, no take-backsies

as for accidentally checking the box i mean tough luck? maybe a pop-up window saying something like 'this will ban you from the game center for (time). are you sure you want this?' so you can't click it accidentally and if someone still accidentally clicked it it's not that horrible or game-breaking to be banned from the game center for a bit

that's just my opinion tho
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Trin1030
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Posted: Sun, 08/01/2023 17:25 (23 Days ago)
@SilverShinyCharizard
yeah!! i feel that there should be at least some countermeasures in place which is why i made this suggestion :) i think its important to be able to have those implemented restrictions when you have no self control over it/for those that dont otherwise it may end up driving that audience away because of their inability to save up to make progress

@XYZ
id want there to be multiple options to select for a temporary ban (which is why i said the lowest possible time could be a one month temp ban). it would be beneficial for there to be a warning or notice beforehand so people know what theyre doing. unfortunately, if they had the option to unban themselves at any given moment with no repercussions to it then it would make the problem worse since it wouldnt actually be restraining them.
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Posted: Sun, 08/01/2023 23:00 (22 Days ago)
The first check box seems reasonable and i also burned nuggets on black friday box xD However for the second one i'll have to disagree for a few reasons.
1. dream point tasks
2. magearna raffle
3. coin flip rally

and generally, you might want to unban yourself later when you need to do something, so this feature could cause trouble
Trin1030
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Posted: Tue, 17/01/2023 17:59 (14 Days ago)
bumping this because even though it may not seem like significant things and not everyone has virtual/real life gambling addictions it is very crucial that there's some way for people who do or are affected or just have lots of trouble saving up have some way of forcefully limiting themselves for the sakes of their wallets. even goatlings has a self ban option (for the entire account) in the settings just because they have an arcade area with gambling options, so I think it's important that pokeheroes does have something in place too for the people that really need it.
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Posted: Wed, 18/01/2023 23:54 (12 Days ago)
i think this is a VERY good idea, and would show a great deal of goodwill towards those with addictive tendencies. anyone can get a little too carried away, and the options are neither mandatory nor on by default. it would be a refreshing change of pace from a lot of the more, ah, predatory online games. my only concern is that the mods may not want to add it due to it potentially being read as an "admission" to gambling, even though it's not really all that different to the classic pokemon games we all know and love. i think that bans should be paused during things such as the fun fair, with an option to re enable it prior to the end of the fair if one realizes they just can't beat their luck without knowing when to "fold them", as it were. i know that the black friday sale boxes are probably a nice source of income to beef up server maintenance prior to the winter season, but there is indeed a bit of a problem with regards to the temptation to spend disproportionately on the lootboxes. i think mystery boxes and keys having a separate option is good, as well as truly time-gated events in the game corner being potentially excluded from the ban (such as the wheel of fortune, which has a 6 hour cooldown that can not be sped up by nuggets as far as i am aware). this is a chance to really show the community that the health of the players should be valued by themselves and others. full support for this joining the options.
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Posted: Tue, 24/01/2023 22:38 (6 Days ago)
I support this idea! I feel like there should be an option to ban yourself and/or a limit to how much you can spend in the game center over a certain period.

Example: can only spend (X) amount of GC a day/can only spend (X) PD a week to buy GC/can only spend (X) nuggets in the GC a month.