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Taavi: Yep! As common as they may be, leaks are against TOS so I've decided to ban leak talks, so now would be a pretty good time to stop the Raiden skillset discussion.

Hagaru: CONGRATS!! Getting an early 5-star always feels so good.

Here's my ranking:

1. Catalyst
2. Claymore
3. Sword
4. Polearm
5. Bow

Ofc this is from my personal experiences (like Yanfei with catalyst and Razor + Eula with claymores).

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Personal weapon preferences:

Claymores > Catalysts > Bows > Swords > Polearms

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Do ya'll have any characters that you dislike?

Whether that be for their design, story, kit, etc.

And, if you could, how would you change/improve them?

Personal weapon prefrence

1. Sword
2. Bow
3. Polearm
4. Claymore
5. Catalyst

(Exception for Catalyst would be Ningguang and for Claymore would be Diluc, but otherwise I find that the claymore and catalyst users dont work for my style of playing)
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I like every character, theyre so pretty and the dev´s put so much time in them, but kit wise I´d have to regretfully say Chongyun. I just cant really work with having my attacks converted to cryo, sorry Icy boy :( (otherwise he´s 100% amazing!)

If I were to improve one or two I´d probably give some more influence in the Story to Xinyan and perhaps Chongyun, because... rock n roll sounds so nice.
Except for the hangout event with Chongyun we didnt have much with him either so he could´ve perhaps been a bit more present in the Liyue story or Hu tao´s story quest perhaps
(After all we had A world quest for Xinqui and Xiangling, so why not our boi Chongyun too)
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So as a mobile player Bow immediately ranks lowest lmao but here's my general opinion on weapons
1) Polearm
2) Claymore
3) Sword
4) Catalyst
5) Bow

You can tell that my Zhongli/Chongyun main bias is coming through but I absolutely love polearm for how quick and maneuverable they are. It's a bit annoying on mobile since you can't really dodge or move around quickly so being able to launch myself past enemies with just the charged attack is a life saver. Claymore kind of follows the same logic of "If you can't dodge it, tank it and do as much damage back" lol. I should really build Beidou for those reasons lol

I like Ningguang a lot tho, her playstyle is super fun and that jade screen removes a lot of gripes I have about catalyst users, mainly that projectiles are super hard to dodge on mobile and the long range nature of catalyst users means that you're moving around a lot

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I really apologize for this, but I absolutely can not stand Mona. Her character design is amazing and I love the astrological motif on it but man. That outfit. It just looks so uncomfortable and makes me shudder. Like yeah it covers more skin than any other female outfit I think and it matches with her character story but something about it just makes me profoundly uncomfortable.
Also the amount of ass shots in her story quest was. Yikes

Her kit tho is great and I'm so glad that MiHoyo finally fixed her sprint. That would have been another thing I would complain about but praise be to 2.0 for fixing that up

I don't think I would change anything about her though. As a character, her writing is fabulous and her design, while kinda yikes is also super cute. I know a lot of people love her for exactly the reasons why I hate her and I'm content with not ever interacting with her again throughout the game. She's torturing me enough by sitting in the discard unit corner anyway lol

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@Zhongli
how dare you insult my main
I do agree totally that Chongyun's kit isn't great even in terms of DPS or support. His multipliers are just lackluster and his support abilities is hard to work with. At least he makes great melt comps for other DPS units like Diluc and Hu Tao who infuse their basic attacks with elements.

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I like Chong as well but yeah, he feels a touch dull even at c1

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My weapon preference:
1. Sword
2. Catalyst
3. Polearm
4. Bow
5. Claymore

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I like swords because they're easy to use, and catalyst users seem so fun to use! I haven't really had the chance to build any polearm characters yet because I'm lazy but they feel pretty cool I guess. I don't use bows much because my aiming sucks, as for claymores they just feel too slow.

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@~Fahrenheit~
I haven't thought of this question before tbh. Probably Xinyan. We don't have any story quests or anything so maybe it's too early to say.

My weapon preference:
1. Claymore
2. Polearm
3. Catalyst
4. Sword
5. Bow

The upper two places give me reliable damage and easy distribution (I know Claymores can be for ATK and Polearms for Crit Rate), while the others might have other factors. That and it just feels gud.

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Maan. People are comparing Ayaka DPS capabilities with Ganyu.
I’d definitely pull for her instead of Baal if I liked her character design.

I mean I love her combat style. And that sprint plus burst is absolutely mind blowing.
Plus she’s not a bow user so that’s a huge win.

But I love Ganyu’s design. Not so much Ayaka’s.
Plus Ganyu is definitely stronger.
So still not pulling for Ayaka.
But very very very tempted.

I swear if Baal isn’t a good DPS character I am gonna be very mad. 😭😭

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@Taavi

She stole my guaranteed pull for Baal and I won't be using her much since I have a fully built DPS Ganyu.
But it is very arguable. Character design aside, Ganyu and Ayaka both give very similar damage numbers on the same artifacts. Ganyu has the charged attack advantage whereas Ayaka has it for ult.

I'm fairly certain Baal will be a sub DPS.

What’s a sub DPS?

Ayakas normal attacks don’t do as much damage. But otherwise she’s pretty close to Ganyu.
Plus that sprint infusion of cryo is love honestly. Prefect match for freeze comps and blizzard strayer set.

If only she had a design more ro my liking, 🥲🥲
Or at least comparable to Ganyu.
In design Ganyu is clear winner.

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Taavi: a sub-DPS is basically exactly what it sounds like, their goal is to deal as much damage as possible with their skills as opposed to auto attacks with a main DPS.

For example, the newly released Kazuha is a sub-DPS/support, where he deals damage with his elemental skill and buffs the team's damage. Xingqiu is a very popular sub-DPS/support for his damage and hydro application, but if you use like a level 1 Xingqiu purely for hydro application he's just a pure support then.

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The sobbing corner is occupied by Aftershine again, after another roll and, of course, another Yanfei.

At this point, I don't know if I am unlucky with Ayaka and the others... or just extremely lucky with the infernal lawyer.

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It's ok, I'm at 75 soft pity and only 4* characters i have ever gotten from ayaka is chongyun, no ningguan currently, nor ayaka 🥺, i wish all ayaka wanters ayaka havers ❄️❄️❄️🌨️





Somebody save me from inazuma quest ahhhhhh it's so hard 😭😭😭, how to get the blueprint for the Inazuma sword, i need it...

@Aftershine

My close friend has been trying for Yanfei on this banner and in approximately 80 spins he got only 1 lol
Weirdly enough, he got his Ayaka at 72 Pity on 50-50

@Izure

IIRC You get the blueprint after finishing certain world quests.

@Aftershine; I sort of get how you feel I think? The Kazuha banner I was pulling in, I pulled several of Rosaria, I went from C0 to C6 and didn't really see any one else for a while and of course Kazuha made his appearance as close as he could to pity >3>

Currently skipping banners - sort of. I'm skipping Ayaka but I'll be trying in Yoimiya's banner .. for Sayu! I'm hoping to pull her before I hit a 5* (since I'm on a 100% guaranteed promoted character I want to save it for a character I really want, I got my eye on a few and I hope they get banners soon but not together I hope, mihoyo please.. don't😭) My banner is only up to 6 pity I think, I haven't rolled in it since pulling QiQi and it'll be the one time I ask that I don't get lucky, not that I do lmao xD

Also, whilst I'm here - I'm looking for Zhongli advice. I main Zhongli, but I'm not an expert on him, he lives in my party and I do use him, I'm aware of his HP scaling, shield, attacks, etc, etc. The thing is, I was like "Yeah, I'll make a HP build! slap HP on every and make Planet befall hit for hard!!" but it turns out, that doesn't work. I'll put this in a spoiler because this'll be long.

@Makabe
I pulled on the kazuha banner only for Rosaria.
Got her to C3 from not having one. So I was pretty happy. But I would have loved to get C6.
So many stupid razors. 😭😭

Anyways. I pulled on Ayaka banner hoping to get Ningguang and get unlucky for the 5* so I don't waste my guarantee.
Good thing I didn't get a 5* so guarantee is safe.
Bad thing is no Ningguang either. Just a lot of Yanfeis.
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As for the Zhongli question. I'm not much of an expert. But if you're using Zhongli as a main DPS. I'd suggest changing the Tenacity of Millelith (the 20% HP set) set for Nobelesse Oblige (20% burst damage set).

2 peice Noblesse (Burst Damage bonus) and 2 peice Archaic Petra (Geo damage Bonus)

As for stats. Flower is confirmed HP so that's a win. Geo damage bonus on the goblet. Crit damage/Crit rate and energy recharge would be good on the rest. As Zhongli isn't that good for energy and most of his damage comes from his burst energy recharge in my opinion is needed.

On substats be sure to add HP, attack percent, crits and energy recharge.

Zhongli Shield is enough to not worry about a lot of HP. Plus he has a lot of HP on his own so the bonus damage should be enough without adding a lot of HP.

So umm I guess that's it. As for the weapon. The black tassle is not bad. (I think its the onw you're using. The HP one.) But I believe there are better options to increase attack cause like I said. He doesn't need that much HP anyways.

This is all my opinion of course and people can disagree.
Also this is because I think you're using him as a burst DPS more then a physical main DPS.
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In case of Physical main DPS the sets etc will be different.

Instead of the Nobelesse oblige and Archaic Petra you will be going for a 2 peice Gladiator (18% attack) and 2 peice blood stained chivalry (25% physical damage bonus)

The stats should remain the same but instead of geo damage bonus on the goblet you will be opting for physical damage bonus or attack percent.

I would honestly prefer attack percent cause I think it will also increase the burst damage but I'm not sure. If it doesn't then go for physical.

The best weapon for physical DPS Zhongli is by far the crescent pike. It even overtakes 5* weapons because of the passive and the physical damage bonus.
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In case you're like highly dependent on the Shield or need very high shield strength then for the physical DPS Zhongli a 4 peice retracting bolide is a pretty great option.

A little less damage but 20 something percent better Shield.

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@Taavi; it's the (spoiler) code but with [ ] c:
I wouldn't mind some Yanfei constellations as I do use her but I'm trying not to pull in the current banner (and I think for the next few), I have my fingers crossed she might be in a future banner that I want to pull in q_q

But not quite? I'm not looking for a DPS since I could use Iron Pike for that plus some phy. damage artifact sets, I'm looking to get his burst attack as high as possible which is my end goal.

@makabe
I kinda forgot about Albedo 😅😅
Yes with Albedo you wouldn't need that much energy.
So instead of energy recharge try going for ATK % as that's always needed.

Since you're using him as burst. The crescent would not be a good option. I honestly don't know much about spears nor do I have many.
So if blackcliff works then great.

(My only spear user is Rosaria whose running a level 80 r4 Crescent Pike)

But I know the white tassle with its crit rate can be a good option. But people usually prefer the black tassle on Zhongli.

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Queen is officially triple crowned ♡



Hopefully, I can get her last 3 constellations from this banner~

If not-

I have enough star glitter to get one constellation, once she's in the store c':

@Fahrenheit

Ah a Ningguang main. I love her. She really is a queen.
I want her too. 😢😢😭😭

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