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Yeah, it's a SCAVENGER hunt, not an INTERACTION hunt.

@cosmin_2006

Honestly, it's not the interaction. Many people got around to the 300s because they interacted. It's mostly the rare candies that sides with the popular/rich users of PH.

The idea of the hunt is only finding the eggs is a great idea, though it'll be less competition as the top people will always be at 23 minutes.

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actually people can do under 23 minutes

Oh yeah, keep on forgetting. 13 minutes is the minimum if you somehow hatch everything in seconds.

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@mrinja
that's called 'hacking'
tell that to the uncultured

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It isn't considered hacking here (wouldn't be hacking since you aren't doing anything to the code). All you do is find the egg of the Pokemon, sign up, and then click the Pokemon egg and now you got the egg before one minute. Kinda sad that this is allowed, but Riako most likely won't do anything about it.

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Honestly, as an older (age-wise) user with a full time and two part time jobs, something like this event seems more suited to players with that rare thing called 'free time' to spend grinding it out. I'm not a huge fan. The concept is cool, but like a lot of people are saying, it's pretty easy to loophole the entire thing with finding the 'hardest' egg first, *then* starting the event, and rare candy'ing the heck out of everything. Just typing that out turns me off from even trying. This will definitely just have to be one I get from the Event Shop later on after grinding out a voucher.

I don't expect anything to really change now that the event is up and running. After people spent around 75 rare candies to get into the top 30, they wouldn't be happy about Riako changing it mid-stream. He said on his own feed that he was pressed for time or something, and that could have led to mistakes. If we have this kind of event again, we can hope that Riako will close off all of those loopholes and consider limiting it to just egg-hunting.

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@Nightstooth

(Y) Yep, totally agree with you. Not much he can do now, but next scavenger hunt I hope he learns from this one.

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Looking at all the feedback, I understand where everyone is coming from with the rare candy thing but in my opinion I think it's awesome they are allowed, I mean you can gather rare candies from various places on site like the golden slots plus mode, treasure hunt, emera beach, heck even emera square. So I personally think using them is okay since they are widely available on site. As for the whole racing other users to be in the top 750 I personally don't like that feature. To me it feels more competitive than it should be. I read the suggestion on just having to find the eggs and hatch them which is a good suggestion but it would lead to an event that's a bit too easy. Personally if Riako were to make this type of event again I think there should be a set time on the scavenger hunt page for everyone. Beat that time and your eligable to win the event Pokemon. The time would be the same for everyone to try beat and therefore would be fair for each user. This way people wouldn't be racing other users so their times wouldn't actually affect your own personal event experience.

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I've completed it once so far, and I have to admit it just wasn't very fun. It's a fun concept, though, and in the future I think the execution could be better.

As a scavenger hunt, it should be a proper scavenger hunt: finding the eggs, and at most hatching them for it to count. No evolving necessary. Cons would be it's less challenging this way and still favours users with premium (arguably not a bad thing, they're paying for perks and supporting the site after all). Pros would be it's more fun (subjectively) and less frustrating, more inclusive, more fair, less of a grind-fest, and is actually more like a scavenger hunt, not an interaction/rare candies race.

I also like the suggestion of having there be a set time that if you can beat it, you're guaranteed the event pokemon. That would probably be the most fair to the most users.

Seconding everything Masserozzo said.

I've never really been a fan of competitive events, mainly because of all the negative things that come with competing. Having something like a set time (maybe multiple set times, with the fastest, most difficult time awarding the user with a shiny or something similar if they manage to beat it) would allow everyone to "win," regardless of if they have rare candy stockpiles, Premium or no. The Birthday event and Easter egg hunts awarded shinies/mega-ables through a lot of effort on the user's part, and if this event was the same way, I think a lot less people would be upset over it.

Well, next time at least! Nothing can really be done about it now that it's been running.

I like Braixie's idea, maybe this could be used for the next special event destribution.

Maybe more feedback later, but I like that there will be 750 winners and not only 25 or less. So far only 151 user have finished the hunt at least once. So there are still 599 spots for people to get the new event pokemon.

I still see 4 winners atm with Rank #1 in 4 categories...official its:

#51 - #100
#101 - #150
#151 - #200

but when you click on the 51- 100 there is also a rank#1 should be #51 i guess.

Fixed Thanks !!

Will it break my chain?????

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No, these eggs will not break your chain.

The loophole I definitely want to see closed is people finding an egg before starting the hunt so they can pick it up in seconds. It seems more like cheating / exploiting a bug than anything else. Inserting some code that checks to see if a hunt is currently active and telling the person to cancel their hunt before starting the event hunt if they have one going on is probably the easy way to close it. Whether you have a hunt in the tall grass active or not is probably in the site database for your account info so it can probably be done.

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@Nightstooth, yeah i get where your coming from on that front. To be honest though even if its closed now how will we know who's used it or not? So i think its going to have to stay as okay to use for this event since its live or you could take away peoples time that's under 23minutes (if theres any) which would annoy said users since they did work hard for that time, or just stop people from doing it now which wouldnt be fair on everyone who takes part after it gets shut off mid event since anyone under 23mins will be auto placed.

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Okay, I have some thoughts on the thoughts people have on this event.

First off, the dreaded premium buffs, nugget flutes, and rare candies:
I think the first two are completely fine in every shape or form. While I do understand there are users (mostly younger kids) who can't use real money to get nuggets in order to obtain premium or flutes, I don't think the benefits other people paid for should be taken away because of that. Regardless if people get their hands on nuggets with real money or other means, most of them worked for that and nerfing them for an event would be a douchebag move in my opinion.

Yeah, I'm aware what this looks like since I'm premium at the moment. But for a long time, I wasn't. Admittedly, I would probably be slightly salty if I was still non-premium but I definitely wouldn't want premium benefits stripped from users who are premium.

As for rare candies, it's trickier. I think they should be allowed, however. As some have already pointed out, they're not magical unicorns that can't be obtained. There are ways to get your claws on them before the event is over and hoard them for candying up your mons for that one good time to place well.

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Another 'unfair' advantage I saw mentioned is popularity. To this, I can only say what? I'm afraid I don't quite understanding the reasoning as to why being 'popular' (whatever that means) gives you an edge in this hunt. Is it claiming that posting feeds every 10 minutes asking people to interact with your eggs/pokemon is gonna get you more clicks? Because, let me tell you, that'll only get them less friends real fast. I suppose having a couple of more friends can get you some more clicks when asked in moderation, but just interacting in order to get those interactions back is probably way more effective and the benefits of 'popularity' are quite minimal.

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As to being able to find the first egg before starting, I hadn't realized you could do that. I only figured you could wait out the time before you can click on the grass spots and then start the hunt (in order to save 3 or 10 minutes with the overall hunt). I wasn't aware that the egg would stay in the same spot if you find it and can't claim it with a full party or something? Which, I suppose is a bit scummy. But making that impossible at this point would be unfair since people have already done that and there probably isn't a way to eliminate those specific times. So it's best to keep as it is for this event and maybe improve on it with possible future hunts (I like what Nessy suggested). Besides, in the end, it's something that's possible for all users to do so, in a way, it is fair, isn't it? :b

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I don't see what the problem people have with the limited amount of prices you have to race for is. Like some people already mentioned, there's way more event pokemon available than how many people have finished and qualified for one so far. Getting the event-mon really shouldn't be too hard if you have any time to sit down for a bit, be online, and maybe interact a bit.

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The suggestion I saw for only having to find (and maybe hatch) the eggs for the hunt, is a terrible idea in my opinion. If it was a hunt that still functioned the same (aka. being competitive between players), a good chunk of it would be just based on luck. And as far as I've seen, what gets people the saltiest besides premium users actually getting some benefits in exchange for the nuggets, it's competitions with luck playing a big part.

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I think that about covers everything that had gathered simmering in my brain since this started. I think it's a nice little hunt, a good improvement from the mareep one where time zones screwed people over. With the amount of event-mons awarded, it shouldn't even be that competitive/hard if you only aim for the regular event. And there's always most likely the option to get it from the event shop later if you really don't like events like this. I think it's a nice change to the usual events we've had plenty of so far and I'm guessing there are users who do like more competitive events like this one so I'd say let those people fight it out and have their fun. :,]

So, thanks for the neat event and good on you for changing the hunt-specific mons to being available to all with the right chips. This new line of asking for feedback and listening to it truly warms my heart.

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I have already said that it is unlikely to change since the event has already started so I do not know why people are harping on how it can not be changed now when I have already stated that before. It is a definite change I want to see in the future IF we have this event again. A lot of people have not entered or refused to enter. Only 200 so far have done anything, and I honestly think most people are not enjoying it as the event is now. I myself spent about 8 - 10 hours on my event time asleep and not interacting or doing anything since I got home late when I attempted to do the event. Trying to get Pokemon up to level 40 / 35 on top of finding and hatching them without rare candies (Rowan is trying to give me Wailord again for the fourth time, agh) and on top of competing with everyone else's time is not my idea of fun. It is an event for someone who has nothing else to use rare candies on or who has a whole day of nothing but being on Pokeheroes. People have work, school, other obligations, you know. And people gotta simply sleep. As it is now, it is not the kind of event that I actually want to see again in the future. Change it or can it, is what I personally say about it.

Egg hunting idea I got only because it seems the most level playing field from what others were saying.

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