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I, much like many of you, spend lots of time earning DP. Saving up for that special plushie. So after finally saving up, I went to go buy myself a plushie and this came up:

You can't send a Plushie to yourself!

Being a "solo" player, this kind of discouraged me. So what I am suggesting is simply to remove the restriction on sending yourself a plushie. I get that plushies are a big part of the game, and people are really proud of their collection. All I am suggesting is adding in a new way to get plushies so that people who prefer to play by themselves can have the same chances of getting plushies as people who are more social. In an effort to help sway some minds, I came up with a couple of positives and negatives for this suggestion.

Positives
- You can earn that one really expensive plushie instead of hoping that someone will send it to you.
- Makes completing your wishlist much more feasible

Negatives
- Reduces the number of people who send plushies to others
- Makes plushies less "special"

Im all for feedback, so lets talk about this :)


I spent a good chunk of time seeing if this was already suggested, so sorry if this is a repost.

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That defeats the entire purpose of the Dream World system, which is to send GIFTS. You wouldn't mail yourself a birthday card, would you?
You gain nothing by getting a Plushie. The sole purpose of the Dream World shop is to send gifts to others, so why should you be able to send a gift to yourself?
There is no reward for completing your collection. All you get are the Plushies themselves, and the only value the Plushies have whatsoever is the thought put into them.
Honestly, I think it's kind of selfish to take a feature that is solely for gifting others and replace it with a feature that just involves saving up currency to buy items for yourself. We already have ways to earn things for ourselves. What the Dream World is - and always should be - is a way that promotes and encourages giving things to others.
So no support.

Edit: Also, I'd like to point out that both of the "cons" are literally destroying the sole purpose for which the Dream World was created.

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- Reduces the number of people who send plushies to others Currently, you can ONLY send Plushies to others. So... you're saying that we should reduce the number of people who use the feature the way it is supposed to be used just so you can send yourself Plushies.
- Makes plushies less "special" As stated above, Plushies aren't worth anything at all outside of the thought put into them. You can't trade them or anything. Making them less "special" changes them to worth something (the thought put into them) to worth nothing (there IS no thought put into them).

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Yeah, I wouldn't mail myself a birthday card. But I would totally buy myself a birthday present. It is true that you gain nothing by getting a plushie. You also gain nothing by collecting Pokemon sprites, but here we are.

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Honestly, I think it's kind of selfish to take a feature that is solely for gifting others and replace it with a feature that just involves saving up currency to buy items for yourself.

Woah, back up. At what point did I suggest taking the gifting portion out of the dream world? I am talking about adding something in, not taking it away. Nothing is being replaced.

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So... you're saying that we should reduce the number of people who use the feature the way it is supposed to be used just so you can send yourself Plushies.

Nope. I am saying we should remove the restriction put in place and let users decide how they want to use the shop. IF the number of people who gift plushies to other people were to decline, doesn't that just mean that they wanted to buy their own plushies for themselves in the first place? And, if it doesn't reduce the number, then there is no harm in it is there?

Also, if plushies aren't worth anything and have no value, why is it so important to keep the dream-world "gift only"? Why does it matter that someone wants to buy a plushie for themselves?

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No support. It's to encourage interaction with other users. It encourages making friends and sending them stuff. It encourages you to work hard to make others happy.

It's not to encourage anti-social, unresponsive, and selfish behaviour, which is what this suggestion is promoting.

If you really want to get a specific plushie, you don't have to know anyone. You can post a feed to ask for a plushie swap, or you can post in the Gift a user above you a plushie thread. (Where you send a plushie to someone, and request one in return. And usually, if you don't request something too overpriced, people will try to get you what you want.)

As there are already ways around this, there's no reason to encourage lack of socializing. Even if you prefer to ignore others, mild interaction that takes less time than what it took you to make this thread can get you what you want.

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As Navuso said, the Dream World "encourages you to work hard to make others happy." Why do you want to change a feature that is solely about gifting and affects nothing else about the entire site just to make it so that you can work hard to make yourself happy?
Yes, that's being selfish. By definition, in fact - "concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure." That's what taking a feature purely about gifting and changing it into a feature where one can "gift" oneself is. I'm not insulting you. I'm stating fact, proven with definitions.

The fact that I said card and not present was deliberate.
There is a functional difference between a card and a present, just like there is a functional difference between a Plushie and a Pokémon or item: a card is just a piece of paper/some other materiel with a nice message and some pictures, and cannot be used for anything, like Plushies; whereas a PRESENT actually does sometimes have a use, be it playing (a video game) or helping you work (a special kind of woodcutting knife if you enjoy woodcutting/professionally cut wood), for two examples. Pok émon are the same way: yes, like Plushies, they're just pixels, but Pokémon CAN be used around the site, whereas Plushies literally do nothing other than being there. Plushies are like birthday cards - sweet, thoughtful, but absolutely worthless to anyone other than the one to whom they were gifted (and they should stay that way, because the entire feature was created solely with gifts in mind and NOT with things like Plushie trading and sending yourself Plushies) - and hopefully the fact that I explained why I said "card" and not "present" will be clearer now and my analogy will make more sense.

Also, no, you didn't say take the gifting portion OUT, but the feature is SOLELY intended for gifting and has been that way since the minute Riako started coding it. If you add the option to buy a Plushie for yourself, do you even realize how few people would actually keep using it for gifting?
So yes, if this is approved, it does take something away - it reduces the chance to get an actual thoughtful Plushie that someone else sent you with the intention of making you happy and not a pointless Plushie that you sent yourself after clicking for a few hours.

Why should users be allowed to decide how they want to use the shop if it's one of ONLY two places on the ENTIRE site where solely helping yourself and not giving anything to others ISN'T possible (which is a fact - the Dream World Shop and the holiday gift centers are the only two places where you CANNOT gain anything for yourself, and clearly they were intended that way)? If you don't like the inability to send yourself a Plushie, then don't try to reduce the gifting aspect - simply don't use the Dream World. Plushies have no use outside of the Dream World, as I've stated several times before in my explanation as to why they aren't a necessity, but a pleasure, so it literally doesn't hurt you at all to ignore the feature. There are plenty of other places to work hard and benefit from it yourself, but I would greatly appreciate if the Dream World was left alone, because it's the only time-unrestricted place that requires GIVING and doesn't involve GAINING. Since the implementation of this suggestion would adulterate the core purpose of the Dream World, I still give no support.

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No support all reasons are stated by Carpet en others.
I got all my plushies by trading fair an plushie for a plushie.

*just as a bad idea in my opionion as wanting plushies to be able to evolve*

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Full support. To have the free choice can never be selfish.

(btw @Carpet, is it just my bad english or is your post written a bit harsh?)

The plushies would be -true- presents and not just 'Oh yeah, let's exchange some plushies for completing the list.'-presents. They would be sent because a person really wants to gift something small. the main-thought of this feature would be kind of more honest and that's what I'd like to support.

Beside that plushies don't have a use yet. There isn't a reason for hoarding or collecting them all ..

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Please reread my post. It IS selfish, because you're changing a feature solely for gifting people into a feature that just lets you selfishly help yourself.
If they didn't WANT to gift something, they wouldn't be in the Dream World at all. Yes, those "let's exchange Plushies for completing the list" presents ARE annoying, and I personally don't participate in Plushie exchanges (contrary to what someone who kept spamming me with Plushies and expecting them back without asking first seemed to think), but it's even worse to send YOURSELF a Plushie. That's not how the feature is supposed to work at all! .-.
Exactly. There isn't a reason to collect them all. So there's no point in selfishly changing a feature that is all about gifting to one that lets you help yourself like every other part of the site... solely so you can collect them all... which doesn't even do anything.
Don't think this is selfish? Then you need to reread the definition I posted, because I'm fairly certain that it is.

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The DW shop was meant to gift plushies to congratulate people cheer them up and for being kind there is no task or nothing that we should collect plushies that is not necessary now look at me i lost the Professor Rowan Quest so one of my friends gave me a jirachi plushie to cheer me up the only aim for the DW shop is to gift something not to collect something
so no support here

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i don't think the op's point here is to be selfish - yes, the dream world is meant for gifting to others, but not wanting to engage in the more intimately social aspect of the game to post and request plushie trades does not make one selfish (and yes, i do think you're being pretty harsh there carpet :p ), please remember that social interaction does not come as easily to some as it does to others, even for small things like reaching out in feeds and forum threads to get things they need (social anxiety -is- a thing)

that being said, the plushies -are- a social aspect of the game, and like others have said, it requires poking out of your shell a bit to get what you want, but it's not a -necessary- aspect of the game

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I don't support. It disappoints me when people try to collect all the plushies for the sake of completion, and that unique plushies ranklist bothers me as well. I think plushies should be seen as gifts not for collecting or buying. This suggestion would defeat the purpose that's already being defeated, in my opinion.

I support as there is no way to get a shiny plushie without really knowing anybody. I think it's unfair to add a big feature like this in which you NEED somebody else to send you this stuff. Luckily, I know some people, but not everybody is that lucky.

And if you're going to say, "post in the plushie thread", well, some people send you a plushie that you already have and don't want anymore of.

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You gain nothing by getting a Plushie.

Wrong. There IS something you gain by getting plushies. I can't give anymore details, though.

Nothing in this game is necessary. It's all meant in fun. Doesn't mean we can't want something on this site, though.

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I find your suggestion a little counter productive.

I should start by saying that I do not support it.

I know it is hard to remember, but Pokeheroes, while being an interaction game, has a very large social aspect. That includes gifting, battling, friending, and making feeds. The whole system is very well set up for making friends.

And even if you don't have many friends, a feed asking to exchange plushies is fairly easy, and it will be seen by anyone looking at the notifications wall.

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bump

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Not sure how I feel about the suggestion, but if it isn't changed it should be posted clearly that you can't buy for yourself... when I was new I wasted a lot of time earning points to get a plushie, because I didn't know I couldn't buy myself one.

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No point bumping this... Has not use and defeats the purpose of gifting to eachother.

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Tenefix - I actually didn't notice how old this was, and it was only on the second page (plus, it isn't in rejected so obviously someone decided to leave it up for discussion)

You obviously didn't read my post... I made a counter-suggestion that "it should be posted clearly that you can't buy for yourself"... That comment "has a use" and doesn't "defeat the purpose of gifting to each other"

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I understand that you want to be a solo player, but that defeats the whole purpose of pokeheroes. You click on others pokemon and they click on yours, and you send each other plushies. Ive made my best friend on this site solely because one day she started to send me plushies. I sent some back and now its been like a cycle of gifts and it feels way better than if I had sent some to myself

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Title: How di I give someone one of MY plushies?

I want to give someone a plushie i have, but how do i?

This suggestion has received less than 60% support and was moved to rejected.

Total votes: 145
Support ratio: 52%

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