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180 USD for a Special/Legendary event pass that's one-time use is outlandish.

Quote from RequiemForADream

yes I completely understand the site needs to be funded somehow or else we wouldn't have Pokeheroes to begin with

Just wanted to mention that keeping the site up is very inexpensive.

Having a yearly domain can be very cheap, we're talking about around the range of 15 USD yearly.

Having some decent monthly web hosting nowadays is also pretty inexpensive.

Doesn't really take much funds to keep a site up and running like this.

This suggestion is definitely one that's taking the step in the right direction for this site as a whole, maybe I don't agree with it in it's entirety, but I agree with the message it's trying to get across which is the most important thing about it

Basically, make the game more f2p, and make it more appealing to casual players. Cut down nugget prices significantly to where it's more affordable to people. Enough to at least keep this site running, maybe some into development resources (if there's any), and then some you can pocket for yourself. As nugget prices stand, I don't see what would be justifying such high prices like these, except maybe trying to maintain more than just a comfortable living off of this site.

That's all.

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Quote from Braixie

get funding through advertisements where users can watch ads to earn nuggets? A limited number of ads pre day and you don't have to watch them if you don't want, but it then gives us nuggets and gives the site some funding

This SO. MUCH. I can name a good handful of sites like this that do this system and It's amazing. It gives players who can't buy nuggets or membership with real money an even playing field nugget wise, while still letting Premium members have a slight advantage.

It'll obviously have to be limited to only a few videos per day, depending on how many nuggets we earn by watching a video.

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No support ...
1. Its because only the owner of a game site knows the costs for the webhosting of his/her site. I dont know but i think that there are differences between the provider .. and countries. The trafic of sutch a big site is high please dont forget.

2. it would be nice if people who registrate on a game site can get all things fast and without many work for a long time but this would make a game site boring and worthy things worthless. With time and patience every user can get what he want without spending real money.

... what i would support is when there would be a chance to earn nuggets with interacting too, 1000 clicks = 1 nugget maby, then the user can earn more nuggets with working :)

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@Temy

Quote from RequiemForADream

"With number 2 being said, yes I completely understand the site needs to be funded somehow or else we wouldn't have Pokeheroes to begin with"

I've already stated that I COMPLETELY understand that the site needs to be funded, I am not in any way diminishing the fact that this is VERY important.

I have no issue with paying for premium since I only buy monthly and it's only 8 dollars. Or I can find other ways to get them. By selling PFQ items usually to be honest, because 800 nuggets is 1.2M and that's not easy to come by not just for myself but for MANY users.

Now as far as event passes which is the point.. just for an uncommon hunt you need 3K nuggets which is 30 dollars or 4.5M PDS. I kinda think that it's outrageous. I just think that there could be a price lower, or other ways to *EARN* passes to help make event hunting easier for users who are unemployed, in college, minimum wage or for what the majority of this site is - kids. Their parents have to pay for these things. I know my family isn't going to pay $30 to an upwards of $80 dollars to just to get some pixels no matter how badly I want them. Especially if you need the Megas to complete dex from the events. I'm just suggesting a lower in prices, another way to 'earn' them say like people have recommended or even just simple ways to earn them onsite easier. I'm not asking them to drop prices from (say uncommon) for $30 to $5 I just think they should be a bit easier to obtain. That's all.

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get funding through advertisements where users can watch ads to earn nuggets? A limited number of ads pre day and you don't have to watch them if you don't want, but it then gives us nuggets and gives the site some funding

Yes, this would be a great alternative. Because if every user would watch an ad on their own, how much better would it be rather than waiting till one user uses their savings to buy premium. Yeah you're still relying on someone to get you money, but I think it's more reliable and fair.But yeah like you said it has to be fair, 1 nugget per add is probably the best thing to do I think, and only like "your daily ads.". But if someone is like "if everyone shared their add nuggets they would get 95,421 nuggets per day which is OP," just remember, no one is going to do that in the first place. 2. PS: Daily chains exist, and those would give even more than 95,421 nuggets if everyone shared.

Edit: So I checked the votes, and 5 people said that it would, simplify an existing feature (event passes and points) in a unnecessary way (making it easier). But what's so wrong with that, and how is it unnecessary? If you think event passes and points are easy to get and worth it, I will slap you with one of Riako's fish.

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Quote from Mrinja

"So I checked the votes, and 5 people said that it would, simplify an existing feature (event passes and points) in a unnecessary way (making it easier). But what's so wrong with that, and how is it unnecessary? If you think event passes and points are easy to get."

These are most likely people that A.) Dislike me, B.) Have the spare money to constantly spend on nuggets. C.) Constantly sell anything and everything on PH to make PDS to buy nuggets and care little about anything else. D.) Have mommy & daddy pay for their nuggets.

This is just an assumption. I see no other reason why. I know I sure as hell don't have the spare money to be spending on that many nuggets just to get some cute pixels.

Support!

My last Event Hunt was Pachirisnow, and since I can't but nuggets (underage :P) I chose to get premium and flutes from the sale (2000 Nuggets). While I understand the site has to be funded, I find it rather ludicrous that selling a Shiny Pachirisnow would give me 800k PD at most, yet an Event Pass would cost 4.5 million PD on top of getting Premium. Even if I hit a chain of 40, an Event Pass would cost me about 2 million PD. I'm not expecting to make a profit, but the price difference is quite large.

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But, to be honest, you don´t need Event Passes for hunting an Event. You can just normally breed the breedable ones.
Yes, it takes time and with Event Pass it goes quicker. But you can decide, do you want it to go quick or do you have the patience to wait?
I personally would wait instead of buying the Event Pass and so I do think ... if there´s enough people that want it to go quick, well then, their problem.
You don´t need that Event Pass to get a breedable Event Shiny.

Only exceptions I see with this is the Event Legendaries and on that part I think, that Event Pass for these should be in place, because these should be kept rare.
And if the price keeps people from hunting it, then great, the Pokemon is more rare.

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... right, and its more an collecting site then a selling site for collections ... in real life you never get the full price for the woth of a thing if you sell it .. this is normal ^^ this is no reason for making the eventpasses cheaper. When i have spared money for nuggets and buy a event pass i would never sell the shiny i get from it, this pokemon has a special personaly worth for me, this is the main reason for a event pass.
What you can do is to work hard for some PD and Nuggets with hunting pokes for sell and you can do the games for collecting items .. anytimes you can have the nuggets for buying a event pass, all you need is time and patience .. isnt it the meaning of every game? A bit time and patience?

And when the shiny event pokemon are more easy and faster to get because of cheap passes they lose there worth .. this would make many people angry too and then they have an other reason to be bad
If the passes would be cheaper in the future for new user or user who have not many time for playing ... it would be unfair against all user (if kids or adults) who play this game since years and who payed many and worked hard.

And advertise on the site is really not nice .. this site isnt really a private place anymore when a banner pops up with every new page you visit. Me personaly would make it feel bad because i am no friend of advertise^^

Please excuse when i write some wrong words because of my no perfect english ^^

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I agree with Brambleclaw and Temy.

If there would be more ways to earn nuggets - with clicking like Temy suggested or maybe an limited amount daily through the game center, that would be a thing I would support. Or what was the main reason for this suggestion - more ways to earn event points. Not lowering the prices for the passes, but giving more rewards for being active.

Also event passes have only a one-time use. So if I would hunt a shiny event with a pass, like Temy said, it would be special and nothing that I wanted to sell afterwards. You can make your money here good with interacting (even little amounts) per day, the bit pd for the daily log in and rumbling.

When I got my first shiny event - a Winter Numel - without premium or flutes or a pass, just through breeding, I was so proud, although it took a lot of time and patience.

Quote from Temy

what i would support is when there would be a chance to earn nuggets with interacting too, 1000 clicks = 1 nugget maby, then the user can earn more nuggets with working

I just really find this alternative to be pointless, like couldn't you just get 1000 clicks, go to the game center legendary mode, and have a chance of getting x50 better deal and a chance of other items too?

About the advertising, I mean it could just be a pixel play button on the hotbar so you can watch a limited amount of ads to get nuggets? Yeah I hate advertisement, but there are certain times when you really want one. Currency bought with money and play an ad instead? Yes. Play a game of Agar.io with an ad, or watch an ad to continue in a site? No.

And to those people saying just breed one, who said you have one? We all fine breeding helpful, but I'm not going to buy other people's ridiculous prices of event pokemon. And here's the catch. It's not even a ridiculous price, it's actually how special they are just to get a normal event pokemon. So yeah except for having 167 event pokemon, I'm just asking to make event points cheaper or easier to get without making the site unbalanced, easy, boring. If you're saying it's already balanced for younglings, your mistakingly wrong. I find flutes, and premium to be acceptable meaning it's something that I don't care about, it's not a biggy . Except for the retro starters part But the event pokemon parts is just really ridiculous.

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@Mrinja
Not sure, what you mean with ridiculous prices. Normal event pokemon are sold mostly for 5 - 10k pd, sometimes less. That's not really expensive. Some might have a bit higher price, but when someone is breeding them, the price is often lowering.

Quote from Mrinja

And here's the catch. It's not even a ridiculous price, it's actually how special they are just to get a normal event pokemon.

Yawns XD

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I left PH a long time ago, but I pop on while logged out every now and then to see how things are going. When I saw the thread Riako posted on the topic of decreasing activity, I can’t say I was surprised. I think this suggestion thread highlights a problem that is a big reason as to why I left PH (not the only reason, but a big one)

PH is too nugget-addicted. Too much on the site has a heavy addiction to nuggets. Shiny hunting, daycare breeding, certain retros, gardening, interacting, and now recently megas… nuggets impact the game in such a heavy way that they’re almost a necessity. It’s ok to have real life money perks that help make a game a little easier, but PH abuses that and makes it so that nuggets make the game a whole heck of a lot easier.

ESPECIALLY on a game where completion is a key goal. Pokedex completion, shiny and non-shiny, are a core focus of PH. Without nuggets, finishing the shinydex is hard to the point where it isn’t fun. That’s where I found myself. I looked at the outrageous difficulty of obtaining shiny megas and the unnecessarily expensive pricing of event passes compared to the time it takes to shiny hunt events without event passes. After analyzing these things, I came to the conclusion that it wasn’t worth sticking around. Perhaps if the dex completion wasn’t such a core focus of the game though, it’d be ok.

I’m hoping by throwing in my two cents that PH can undergo a change with these event passes. I know I started off broad with the topic of nuggets, but it definitely applies to this suggestion.

Also, to throw in some math:
There are 72 events in the event shop. I’m leaving out two of them, van Bagon and Mr. Bagon, because they are pretty easy to hunt compared to the rest. So these calculations encompass the 70 others. Each calculation is assuming you use one event pass per species, then use the daycare for the rest of the evolutions of that one species. For example, one Easter Slakoth is hunted with the event pass, then the second for Easter Slaking is hunted using the daycare. Also I don’t know how to convert money so apologies for that.
There are 21 common events. This leads to 630,000 event points; 63,000 nuggets, $630
There are 32 uncommon events. This leads to 1,920,000 event points; 192,000 nuggets, $1,920
There are 13 rare events. This leads to 1,040,000 event points; 104,000 nuggets, $1,040
There are 4 legendary events. This leads to 800,000 event points; 80,000 nuggets, $800

That’s a whopping 43,90,000 event points, 439,000 nuggets, and therefore a total of $4,390.

holyyyyyyyyy karrrrrrrrrrp

That’s a lot of dough. Too much. That doesn’t even include the money needed to keep premium running for the event passes, nor does it account for all the future events. Remember, PH is a dex completion game. That’s the main focus, the main goal. So completing the pokedex and shinydex absolutely positively has to be reasonably doable. There are other parts of the site that make completing the dexes unreasonable, too, but this thread’s focus is on event passes, so I’ll end my post on that.

Edit: And I didn't even throw in the math with both money and time on getting shiny event megas. Now that'd be quite the post, but I think my point has been made.

Not sure, how nuggets are a necessarity for playing here? I had two years here without using any nuggets and was fine with shiny hunting, the daycare and gardening. I agree with the retros, but you can still buy them from other users.

Premium is only necessary for the use of event passes and hunting shiny megas.

I can understand that it is difficult to complete the shiny dex, but that is only a personal goal, you will get no reward for doing so...

Ha, you can buy retro eggs from other people. That's pretty funny wolfsdrache.

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ENOUGH. I have requested this be locked.

STOP POSTING.