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Remove Old Trades in GTS

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Yuucchii
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Posted: Mon, 13/01/2014 01:51 (10 Years ago)
Just a quick suggestion that trades have to expire with in 1 month of either the user not accepting the trade, just leaving it there what not. I was looking for some specific Pokemon and searched them up several of them were very old and you probably couldn't offer on them anyways because the user was inactive.

It would also be handy to have a notification if you trade expired. Just to notify you because you may still be an active user but have forgotten about your trade. Eg. "Your trade has expired and has been removed from the GTS" Just so you know about it, if you're still an active user and you just forgot about your trade.

So just a quick thought to clear out a lot of trades that will forever stay there in the GTS basically. There are actually trades listed as 5 months old even.

Feedback appreciated. Thank you :)


Leo_
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Posted: Mon, 13/01/2014 01:53 (10 Years ago)
I support this, and I think a month is a good enough time for that :3
CarpetMonster
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Posted: Mon, 13/01/2014 01:55 (10 Years ago)
I suggest that it happens if the one who put up the trade is inactive, rather than if the trade itself is old. That way, you can still offer on trades if the user is active but nobody else offered. ^^
Either way, I support! ^^
Kuroo
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Posted: Mon, 13/01/2014 14:04 (10 Years ago)
Supporting (what CarpetMonster said).


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Yuucchii
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Posted: Wed, 15/01/2014 02:23 (10 Years ago)
Thank you for all the support guys. :)


Also going to add a suggestion of a notification of when this happens. Eg. "Your trade has expired and has been removed from the GTS" Just so you know about it, if you're still an active user and you just forgot about your trade.
CarpetMonster
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Posted: Wed, 15/01/2014 12:03 (10 Years ago)
I don't think trades should expire if you're an active user. Like I said before, I think it should happen only if the user himself or herself is inactive for a specific amount of time. The reason is in your own post.
QuoteJust a quick suggestion that trades have to expire with in 1 month of either the user not accepting the trade, just leaving it there what not. I was looking for some specific Pokemon and searched them up several of them were very old and you probably couldn't offer on them anyways because the user was inactive.

Even if a trade has been up for a month... if the user is active, then you won't have any problems, so why should their trade be taken down when they don't want it to be?
If someone is active and doesn't accept an offer, they must have a reason. Why should people be forced to either reset their trades every month or accept an offer that they don't like? This is especially annoying for private trades, if the person who is supposed to offer is the one who's inactive. Let's say I have had a trade up for four months, but the person in question hasn't offered, while two other people have. I clearly stated in the description that it's a private trade for the person, so I am definitely not going to accept those two offers.
Even worse, let's say that I PM the person in question to remind him, and this suggestion is in place. What if he tries to justify not offering by saying this? "The trade wasn't even up until a week ago, so it's not my fault that I didn't offer when we agreed on the trade." The trade was up for four months, but the person took too long to offer and now it looks like I didn't even have the trade up and that it's my fault.
Hopefully, the problems that are caused by removing trades made by active users are clearer and make more sense now. ^^

On another note:
QuoteIt would also be handy to have a notification if you trade expired. Just to notify you because you may still be an active user but have forgotten about your trade. Eg. "Your trade has expired and has been removed from the GTS" Just so you know about it, if you're still an active user and you just forgot about your trade.

You realize that this contradicts the only reason why this would be useful, right? You are told in Notifications if you get an offer on your trade, so you can't forget unless nobody offers, and it's not your fault that nobody offered on your trade. The only reason you wouldn't accept an offer if there actually is one is because it's a bad offer. The whole reason you suggested this was because you didn't want people who were inactive to have their trades up... so why is it necessary to notify active members if you could just as easily not remove their trades to begin with? The only time this would be useful is if somebody quit the site/forgot to come back and then came back later, and even then, it would be far better if only inactive users got their trades taken down and then when someone did have a trade removed they got the notice just in case.

I know I posted this earlier, but I wanted to add more details and reasoning. Also, now that I've thought about it more, I have decided that I don't support the suggestion if it's based on how old the trade itself is. Sorry! ^^'
Shreyash_Jain
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Posted: Sat, 25/01/2014 04:38 (10 Years ago)
yes
for active users trades shouldn't expire
but users whose accounts are either locked or have left pokeheroes, their trades should expire otherwise they mislead us
eitherway i am in half support
PenScales
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Posted: Sat, 25/01/2014 04:43 (10 Years ago)
No support... You can already cancel trades, so this would only apply to inactive users
CarpetMonster
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Posted: Sat, 25/01/2014 04:46 (10 Years ago)
MoltresMaster, the point of this literally is to remove trades by inactive users. The reason it was suggested is because it gets annoying for active users when the trades of inactive users are up, since your offers can't be accepted.
AutumnStar
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Posted: Sat, 25/01/2014 04:54 (10 Years ago)
no support for all the reasons carpetmonster stated :p

if i'm active and i want to leave my trades up, that's my business, maybe someone hasn't come along just yet who wants to offer on it and i'd like to leave it there until someone does

as for inactive users, what qualifies as inactive? a week? a month? is this something that can be legitimately decided?


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CarpetMonster
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Posted: Sat, 25/01/2014 05:01 (10 Years ago)
AutumnStar - I personally think it should be at least a month of inactivity, since most vacations from school aren't longer than a month (summer vacation being the only one I can think of that is). If you are inactive for a month due to a scheduled event (a vacation on which you will not have internet access, for example), you shouldn't leave trades up anyway, since you aren't going to accept offers until you get back anyway, and people are going to have to wait for an inconvenient amount of time.
Diana
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Posted: Sat, 25/01/2014 06:44 (10 Years ago)
I agree with everything CarpetMonster said. There's really no reason to leave them there when they've been inactive for that long. If the owner of the inactive trade was going to trade with somebody, they could put it back up, again.

I think it should tell the user who put it up:
"This trade has been canceled due to inactivity." (The "This" could link to the Pokemon)
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Posted: Tue, 11/02/2014 16:41 (10 Years ago)
Yea I just wrote a post similar tot his today actually. I hate trading with inactive people and have to discover for myself that they haven't been on here for months. I like the idea and fully support it.

I think as Carpet Monster has mentioned that a month is the least. Like mentioned before if you are going to leave for awhile that is your business but don't put up trades and make those who are here have to wait for you to come back. That seems rude to me.

But if the user is active then I suppose there shouldn't be a time limit, or at the very least a notification should pop up saying something like "time is about to expire, renew it?" So if the user is active then they can go and renew it. If they aren't active then they won't see the notification and the Pokemon will be removed followed by another notification saying "This trade has been canceled due to inactivity." (As Diana mentioned)

Again I support the idea of a timer of sorts for inactive users, the nitty-gritty ideas however seem to be mixed up and I'm not decided on the best method so there is just my two cents.
Shreyash_Jain
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Posted: Tue, 11/02/2014 17:34 (10 Years ago)
I support for all reasons stated.
Spiritburn
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Posted: Tue, 25/03/2014 17:20 (10 Years ago)
Support for users who have been off for a month or more to get their trades cleared out.