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Userlevel Limit For Suggestions

Forum-Index Suggestions Implemented Userlevel Limit For Suggestions
Midnight_Rein
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Posted: Tue, 02/06/2015 23:43 (8 Years ago)
The problem with this, and most suggestions like it (ignoring that they normally sound downright hateful, mostly when others start posting), here and on other forum based sites is that you're now limiting growth of the site. You restrict someone because a bunch of higher leveled, older accounts feel like someone's spamming, or someone's being annoying and base it, blame it on their level, and you've created a spot where no new suggestions are going to get created from anyone but the highest level accounts. You're tearing away a good amount of users from a major part of the community. Isn't this what the moderators are for? There are bad days that they may not see everything, or they log out just as a new batch of bad forum posts are made, or god forbid they want to actually play on the site a bit, but they usually are really good about cleaning out the forums on time, from what I've seen.
You also have to remember that you have been on much, much, much longer than the rest of us. There's no real help for the search function, there's no way to know for sure if something is repetitive, unless you look through all of the forums by hand, and something you may have seen a hundred times may not have cropped up in the last couple months and someone didn't look deep enough to find it. Not to mention the fact that some of us aren't on for large amounts of time, or the site lags too much because we live in a bad area or whatnot, and we don't have enough time or PD to get all the features to see what everything is about.
In the end, people posting repetitive forum suggestions aren't necessarily the only ones at fault, and from what I've seen, people are usually really good about understanding if you say "Hey, soandso suggested this over here" and give a link, or say that it's not well explained. Maybe instead of complaining about it and insisting you discriminate against newer players and changing the system you should let the system work, and report things you see as spam, or repetitive.

So there's my two cents that's probably going to be smacked down. No support for this.
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Posted: Tue, 02/06/2015 23:51 (8 Years ago)
Perhaps not level, but game time, because you can go a long time without leveling up.
But full support though
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Posted: Wed, 03/06/2015 00:27 (8 Years ago)
As neither of you have paid attention to, the reasoning behind this is so that a user will unlock all available features before making a suggestion. Time and time again, I've seen someone suggest something that is implemented already, only because they don't know it is there until they level up

We don't want to limit it by time because of what Midnight said.

BUT it is not that hard to level up to 15 and unlock everything. It means you'd explore the site more before you go in and suggest "WE NEED WAY TO GET POKEMANS FROM FOSSILS" (I've seen many suggestions similar to this that were locked or deleted)

We aren't restricting the growth of the site that much, as the trainerlevel I chose is the level where everything is unlocked. It isn't gonna be just the highest level accounts, because most users who make well written, well thought out suggestions that help the site have waited until they have everything unlocked.

Midnight, you are a month old and over level 15, therefore You would be able to suggest stuff! Like, Im pretty sure the "good amount of users" you say in your post are all over level 15 as well, because if you stay active, you level up.





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Posted: Sun, 07/06/2015 02:23 (8 Years ago)
No support at all, this would be extremely unfair to users who do not have time in their busy lives to come on the site and do things to get their trainer level higher

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Posted: Sun, 07/06/2015 04:37 (8 Years ago)
Mojo, if you had read the posts before yours...
The whole reason for this is to prevent users who frankly have no idea what they're doing from posting suggestions. However, if a user were to have a suggestion that seems good but they are under level 15, they could just ask a friend who is above level 15 to post it.
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Posted: Tue, 04/08/2015 22:30 (8 Years ago)
Gonna go ahead and bump this as it's still needed.
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Posted: Sat, 08/08/2015 22:05 (8 Years ago)
I've made some unnecessary suggestions when I first came to this site and they've been rejected. Now, I'm very reluctant to post suggestions at all because of the rejection of my earlier suggestions. If this was implemented, I most likely wouldn't have had made those suggestions which now hinder me from making any more suggestions.

So full support. (Y)
Tenshii
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Posted: Sun, 09/08/2015 15:52 (8 Years ago)
I (fully)support this.

This can avoid newbies spamming the forum and they may learnt when they are browsing the forums. Although they can't post, they can still learnt from reading other's post, which would reduce numbers of spam in the future.
And it could lower the amount the work our mods need to do, so its a win-win.
But I am just afraid that the help forum would be spammed though :P
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Posted: Mon, 10/08/2015 05:57 (8 Years ago)
I like this idea.

I made lots and lots of suggestions back when I was a newbie, not realizing that they're either implemented or unneeded in the site. However, I have grown and explored so much of the site that I don't suggest as much as before and only suggest few useful things that can help us in one way or another.

This will reduce the amount of spam in the forum for suggestions, and will increase the amount of well-explained and good suggestions that the staff can actually have time to read on.

A lot of great suggestions are missed out by Riako because of the newbies posting useless suggestions, and we do not see the usual growth of PokeHeroes from the players side.

That's all I can say. Thank you.
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Posted: Sun, 23/08/2015 19:34 (8 Years ago)
Bumpity bump bump

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Posted: Mon, 24/08/2015 01:45 (8 Years ago)
wow
I remember how stupid I used to be,. I support this so much now. It's a really good idea when you think about it. I can actually see this coming to be a part of Pokéheroes! And I also have to add this. Newbies put worthless suggestions that have already been implemented or spam posts. Not sure why, but they do.

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Saladfish
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Posted: Sun, 30/06/2019 21:35 (4 Years ago)
Just uh, gonna give this a super bump since we really need this still.

Alternatively, I know this may be controversial, but an age limit would be really nice, too. Even if you're a high level, younger people can't really form highly logical and cohesive ideas and arguments; this still causes a lot of headaches in this forum and this whole site today. I'm not sure about a number, maybe under 16 means you can't post in the suggestions forum. I think it would cut down on a lot of the spam and unreasonable ideas this forum experiences.
Windblown_Knight
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Posted: Sun, 30/06/2019 21:41 (4 Years ago)
Mega support, nothing is wrong with this suggestion.
gorgon
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Posted: Mon, 01/07/2019 03:03 (4 Years ago)
no support. at all. some supports may be bad, but that doesn’t mean that you should take away the ability to suggest something if they truly think it would help the site. a lot of the people who are making the “bad” suggestions are younger people. putting a level 15+ level cap on suggestions could block out some amazing suggestions, as well as keep lower level people from voting and giving their opinion ON suggestions. as someone who gets a handle on things quickly, i get ideas quickly, and one of my first suggestion was made when i was a low level, maybe around level 10ish. it was the alphabetic pokemon list instead of numbers list. if i had been blocked off from making that suggestion, i’d be crushed, honestly.
just because they’re level five DOES NOT mean they can make any worse suggestion then say, a level 60 would. there’s already enough level locks on the site anyways, which is already a bit unfair enough for lower level users who don’t have the time to grind their levels. so again, absolutely NO support.

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Posted: Wed, 10/07/2019 15:52 (4 Years ago)
Support. :v

Also, @gregoryk: I think this suggestion only concerns the ability to post, not the ability to vote on suggestions. Thus, even if this was implemented, users under level 15 would still be able to at least vote. I'm not sure if this would apply to replies on a thread. This is a good question to bring forward though. I imagine there could be a way to make it so that users under level 15 can't create new threads, but they can still vote and comment on them.

Quote from gregorykjust because they’re level five DOES NOT mean they can make any worse suggestion then say, a level 60 would.

Yes, it does. Like it has been pointed out before, a level 5 user does not have access to the whole site and therefore does not possess the comprehensive knowledge and understanding of what already exists on site and what does not. Thus, a level 5 user could easily make suggestions for features that already exist (for example), whereas a level 60 user most likely wouldn't.

To add to that and go a bit off-topic here: I think it's a good thing areas and features unlock as you level up. Due to how long I've been here, I've had the privilege of "unlocking" new features when they're implemented. If I was to join today and everything was available right off the bat, that'd most likely be a bit overwhelming and confusing. As PH is now, users get introduced to different features a few at a time, giving them time to learn and adjust before more is thrown at them.
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Posted: Sat, 13/06/2020 20:59 (3 Years ago)
While not stopping the posts themselves, there is now an Approval Stage, so this is implemented in a way.
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