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Require Less Powders for Swords of Justice

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Saladfish
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Posted: Wed, 13/05/2020 18:30 (4 Years ago)
Hello hello! This is a pretty straightforward idea with simple motivation. I don't know why white powders are so absurdly rare. Maybe their spawn rate is just plain bad. Or maybe, and this is my hypothesis: the berrygarden isn't popular enough to warrant legendaries being there. But I don't think the Swords of Justice will be departing the garden.

One white powder goes for ~200k, usually more. That's a hefty amount if you need 5 for each egg. Since the ~200k price lines up pretty well with the pricing of other summons, I'm suggesting to only require 1 white powder per egg.

(also if this has been suggested, please link the thread. The forum search is a pain to use so I didn't check)
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Posted: Wed, 13/05/2020 18:40 (4 Years ago)
either this or up the powder task rate
hadn't had one in ages and then i get one that demanded a hefty 331 Lansats :'v


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Posted: Wed, 13/05/2020 18:52 (4 Years ago)
Support..
I want to hunt Virizion and Cobalion but the bulk stuff so expensive and hard to come by..

My first two Cobalion eggs took me like two or three months to get the powders..
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Posted: Sun, 16/08/2020 15:09 (4 Years ago)
Bumping this up
Taavi
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Posted: Mon, 17/08/2020 23:52 (4 Years ago)
As much as I’d love to support this cause I love that pink virizion. No support cause it will be insanely unfair to people who have actually worked hard with the current absurd rates and amount needed to get the shinies.

Though I guess an increase in spawn rate of task can be a better solution but the decreased amount is a no-no.


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Posted: Tue, 18/08/2020 20:03 (4 Years ago)
@absol-girl, by that logic, nothing should ever be improved because it'll be unfair to those who had to work harder in the past due to a broken or inefficient system.

Improving things to make them more fair for the future (whether that's something completely unimportant in a game, such as making a Pokemon easier to obtain, or something very important in real life) does mean that people who worked through the unfairness before will have missed out; but that doesn't mean that future people should have to continue to suffer through the same unfair situations when they can - and should - be improved. Especially considering that the number of people who will benefit from the change is drastically more than the number of people who have already obtained one or more Shiny Swords.

Not to mention that it makes no sense for a group of Pokemon that aren't that special being worth 1mil PD each in summoning items... that's higher than the exclusive event Legendaries like Shaymin and Kyurem that are only available 2 weeks or less each year.

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Posted: Tue, 18/08/2020 21:05 (4 Years ago)
@creativejackalope
I guess the first part of what u said makes sense.

But on the second part being not worth a mil. Id like to point out that a ruby is worth around 210k these days whilw groundons barely go for 30k.
The trio can easily go for 200k while it takes 1.25 mil to summon it. So thats like 20% payback while others dont even get 10%


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CreativeJackalope
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Posted: Tue, 18/08/2020 21:28 (4 Years ago)
That's kind of my point, the Swords shouldn't be worth more than other Legends, whether that's in sale value (where a Groudon is 30k and a Sword is 200k, over 6x the price) or their respective value in summoning items (where a Groudon Egg is 210k and a Sword Egg is 1-1.25mil, again almost 6x the price). The Swords shouldn't be so much more expensive than other Legendaries when they aren't restricted availability - like Kyurem or Shaymin - and they're just standard Legendary Pokemon.

And a slight correction on the math:
30k is 14.29% of 210k
200k is 16% of 1.25mil
So the difference isn't as much as you initially thought, their payback is near-identical statistically speaking.

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Posted: Wed, 19/08/2020 03:07 (4 Years ago)
Yeah my maths sucks so sorry about that
(It seemed more at that time lol)

Anyways since the swords are guaranteed a shiny at 50 they can’t really be much cheaper or atleast not as cheap as the others.
I mean them tomorrow people will be like lower xerneus and yveltal prices too. And well it’ll just keep going downhill


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Saladfish
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Posted: Wed, 19/08/2020 03:17 (4 Years ago)
How does this suggestion have anything to do with future suggestions? It’s in no way related to whether someone make a suggestion about Xerneas and Yveltal, and suggesting it’ll all “go downhill“ from here is a slippery slope logical fallacy.

Considering you’d need ~10 million PD worth of white powders for one shiny with this suggestion, it costs about the same as some legend hunts. So we’re good on that front.
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Posted: Thu, 20/08/2020 12:46 (4 Years ago)
Yeah but other legends don’t have guaranteed shinies at 50th egg. Also these days xerneus are going for what 400k? And how much do they cost if you get the egg ? A lot more than that I mean 75 dragon gems.

So if we apply this suggestions logic of costing a lot and not being worth it to that their cost will have to be lowered too. Hope that makes sense to you.


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