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Regarding Retro Eggs in Christmas Gifts

Forum-Index Suggestions Rejected Regarding Retro Eggs in Christmas Gifts
PkmnTrainerV
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Posted: Mon, 12/12/2016 08:18 (5 Years ago)
(I couldn't think of another title, so feel free to suggest one!)

I came to know here that a Christmas gift (or a Sky gift for that matter) can be empty if the gift contained a Retro Egg, and the user had a full party.

Why is it so? Do we purchase an empty box for something at Christmas? As the sender pays some PD for the gift, I expect that something should be there in the gift, other than a nice message.

So, I thing that a Christmas gift should contain something, if not the retro egg.

EDIT: Seeing that this issue is related to the retro egg, I think that the retro egg should be placed in the party and a random Pokemon should be moved to the first (empty) box. Since, it is not really fair to expect a user to keep an empty party slot while opening a Christmas gift, and it is also not fair to let the user Miss onto the egg.
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Posted: Mon, 12/12/2016 08:41 (5 Years ago)
To be honest, I think it doesn't really matter. Why can't we expect users to do so? It's not that hard? ^^

As for your way of doing it, then what happens if the user had a full party of eggs and no free egg storages?

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Posted: Wed, 14/12/2016 12:09 (5 Years ago)
This is something that has been bothering me as well (not only with this retro egg, but also with the tall grass eggs for example).
I don't like the idea of moving one pokemon from the party to storage (SilverStar is right about the problem with eggs), but why can't the egg just "stay" on wherever you were trying to get it from to be picked up at a later time?
Something like:
You're party is full! Make room and come back! LINK (clicking will either add the egg or redirect you to this message if there is still no space)
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Posted: Fri, 30/12/2016 14:19 (5 Years ago)
Yeah I'd like if the egg just stayed there instead of disappearing into thin air. Same with finding eggs in Tall Grass when your party is full. It's not absolutely horrible the way it is now, but why make life more difficult for everyone on PH when it can be easier and better?

Of course Riako has to code it and stuff but that's his job and I'm sure he doesn't mind.
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Posted: Sat, 07/01/2017 09:05 (5 Years ago)
Bump!
Omosky
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Posted: Sun, 08/01/2017 05:08 (5 Years ago)

Honestly, I like a different suggestion that has been made better. It's thread is eluding me though otherwise I'd link it.

Anyways, the suggestion's basis is that anytime you receive an egg and you do not have an open spot for it in your party, that that egg goes straight into your Egg Storage box if you have an unoccupied egg slot. It would cover the tall grass, daycare, lab, etc.. Anything anywhere when you may receive an egg and your party is full.

Down to the point, it is our responsibility to make sure we have room for it. It's the same when you are on a trip. If you don't have room for something then you can't take/bring it. Having an egg directly go to your Egg Storage if there is room still fits that test, it wouldn't disrupt anything, and the coding end of it could be easier on Riako than what you are suggesting.


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Posted: Sun, 08/01/2017 06:21 (5 Years ago)
Quote from Omosky

Honestly, I like a different suggestion that has been made better. It's thread is eluding me though otherwise I'd link it.

Anyways, the suggestion's basis is that anytime you receive an egg and you do not have an open spot for it in your party, that that egg goes straight into your Egg Storage box if you have an unoccupied egg slot. It would cover the tall grass, daycare, lab, etc.. Anything anywhere when you may receive an egg and your party is full.

Down to the point, it is our responsibility to make sure we have room for it. It's the same when you are on a trip. If you don't have room for something then you can't take/bring it. Having an egg directly go to your Egg Storage if there is room still fits that test, it wouldn't disrupt anything, and the coding end of it could be easier on Riako than what you are suggesting.


You're missing the point. This suggestion covers ONLY Christmas/Sky etc. Gifts.
I'll take your trip scenario. You cannot be expected to keep room in your bag for gifts you'll recieve when you'll REACH the place.
The user may not be expecting an egg at all from their Christmas gift. So, the Christmas gift becomes just a notification with/without a message for the user. And I'm pretty sure an empty box isn't Riako's intent at Christmas gifts.
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Posted: Sun, 08/01/2017 06:40 (5 Years ago)
If you ever go on a trip, if you don't anticipate to bring anything extra back and fill your bag full, then you can't bring anything back. XD

The other suggestion covers everything where you may obtain an egg, even without notice. The harvest sprites, the special daycare eggs, and yes including sky gifts, christmas gifts, and advent gifts. Aka, if your party is full when you receive an egg at any time then the egg would go into your Egg Storage providing you have an open slot there. This suggestion alone would also be easier for Riako as it would mostly be just a little bit of tweaking from exiting code and adding in a bit of new code. Your suggestion however, Riako would have to do more new coding as well as rework and tweak existing code.

The empty boxes I am sure were not intended. However, a proper suggestion on how to fix it other than players keeping a party slot open hasn't been made. Plus, in all fairness, every year there is a warning made for players about keeping a slot open not only when opening gifts but when opening advent doors too.

Now, while the suggestion I mentioned is an excellent one, if it is not something you wish oh well. While I do not support your idea, I would support if vouchers were given instead. Mind you, again, the cause of this effect would be Riako having to do a little extra coding as well as tweaking existing code.


(Edit: Good grief forgive me, I've been up for 24 hours and when I'm tired things go a bit wonky .Please note I am not saying your suggestion is not a proper suggestion. I am referring to the being reminded to keep a party space open.)

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Posted: Sun, 08/01/2017 07:12 (5 Years ago)
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The empty boxes I am sure were not intended. However, a proper suggestion on how to fix it other than players keeping a party slot open hasn't been made. Plus, in all fairness, every year there is a warning made for players about keeping a slot open not only when opening gifts but when opening advent doors too.


I have never seen a proper warning given on announcement threads.

Also, most newer players don't have egg storages. And with the lack of announcements, they get nothing for their Christmas gifts, when they deserved a retro egg.

And I'd like to see the suggestion which you're mentioning. Since both of them are clearly not the same. Mine says that the egg (ONLY the Christmas ones) stays for you to collect it. But the other one mentions egg storages, which not every user has, and which is not compulsory.

It really sounds like you've come to support a suggestion on a different thread, no offence.
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Posted: Sun, 08/01/2017 18:24 (5 Years ago)

The warning is subtle on the index page, only telling players that egg might be obtained as a reward. If you have Riako added on your friendlist and the minor updates thread subscribed, and read through everything you should, then there are ample enough warnings to keep a space free in your party. With that though, even older players sometimes forget till it's too late! However, Riako has been nice enough to add a pop-up warning on most things reminder players to make sure that they have an open spot in their party before continuing with the action they were performing.

Egg storage slots are not that expensive. There are also very generous players out there how will give new players a sort of care package. Part of that package is usually a good amount of pd so that the player can outright buy or have to only put in a bit of effort for their first egg storage slot.

Having features hold eggs for players would defeat several functions and put a needless, extra strain on the sight when we already have a feature that could be slightly altered to obtain just about the same effect.

I finally found the thread. I do remember the OP being a bit different, but the title, also the main basic objective, is what's important. Yes, it's about utilizing the egg storage for another purpose, but in general your suggestion is a bit of a different point of view of the approach. The focus is obtaining an egg when your party is full. The thread's secondary focus is moving those eggs straight to storage. Your thread's secondary focus is moving a pokemon from the party into a box, and the egg going into the party. If your's was implemented, what would happen when you obtain a christmas retro egg, or any egg for that matter, when you have a full party of eggs?

If you win an auction, accept a trade, or get a pokemon from Prof. Rowan the pokemon goes into the first field that has available space. Why was it coded this way instead of booting something out of the party? First off, it's easier to code. Second is it takes less coding. Thirdly, it's unnecessary. As such, it would be far easier to take that same coding and adapt it to when adopting eggs with a full party and those eggs going into egg storage.

..I really don't see how that statement cannot be taken as anything but offensive. There is no reason to be rude. Please show me the same general respect as a person as I show to you. :/

To sum it up. Yes, I support that thread and not this one. Your main objective of this thread is to obtain those eggs instead of those eggs being lost, which is the same main goal of the suggestion as the other thread and thus your same general idea has already been suggested. On top of that, the particulars you are suggesting is over complicated and would make unnecessary strain. Plus, you are not applying to everywhere where it could apply to. The other thread as is would accomplish the same thing you are wanting. The only difference is being it would be easier and more efficient to achieve while staying true to the current mechanics and would be easier for Riako to add. This is why I said I don't support your suggestion as is. If you changed your suggestion to change christmas retro egg gift boxes so that instead you get a retro voucher, then that I would support.

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