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Rebecca_Chespin
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Posted: Fri, 24/06/2016 12:14 (7 Years ago)
The randomization feature makes starting out interesting, and it's nice that those of us who want to pick a specific starter can do so by matching choices, but the later starter Pokemon should definitely be added to the possibilities when it comes to choosing a starter Pokemon for this game. Chespin is my favorite starter, but I was unable to choose it when I started. :( I hope that they consider updating the starter selection so that others like me don't have to wait and save gems like I did.

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Posted: Sat, 25/06/2016 12:43 (7 Years ago)
Support! New users should have a choice of getting Froakie, Chespin and Fennekin (and Popplio, Rowlet and Litten when Pokemon Sun/Moon is out) and the other new starter Pokemon.
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Posted: Wed, 13/07/2016 22:08 (7 Years ago)
That is a great idea!
Morbid
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Posted: Thu, 14/07/2016 01:10 (7 Years ago)
To get the Kalos starters, you need to trade for an egg with Greg (The Gem Collector) as you mentioned, so if this is implemented and newbies can get the Kalos starters by register it defeats the whole, 'Trade gems for the egg.' concept won't it?

It also would be unfair since members had always needed to trade gems for the eggs, not obtain it normally like other starters (from the lab). It's also likely Aloha Starters are going to distributed by not normal ways since that happened with Kalos.
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Posted: Thu, 14/07/2016 01:42 (7 Years ago)
Not necessarily, Musashi.

Most people don't even trade gems for the eggs. The times of trading gems for Kalos starters have passed since long ago when breeding was introduced for them. I think it's been long enough that users won't get upset about having to trade gems for the eggs in the past if the Kalos starters are given as starter choices.

While I do think it's a good idea to implement special ways to get starters from new regions at first, after the region has been out in the games for a long time, it's also a good idea to begin treating the "new" starters as "old" and/or "regular" starters.
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Posted: Thu, 14/07/2016 03:15 (7 Years ago)
Well, I do agree with your last addition, a lot of other games that uses such recycling methods makes me feel, scammed, somehow but that's just me I guess.

I won't like it but since it will benefit others I'll just remain neutral.
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Posted: Thu, 14/07/2016 10:47 (7 Years ago)
Quote from MusashiIt also would be unfair since members had always needed to trade gems for the eggs, not obtain it normally like other starters (from the lab). It's also likely Aloha Starters are going to distributed by not normal ways since that happened with Kalos


You understand the suggestion, right? What Rebecca_Chespin is suggesting that the Kalos starters should be obtained as a starter Pokemon at the time of registration.
Morbid
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Posted: Thu, 14/07/2016 10:58 (7 Years ago)
Yes, I do, indeed, understand the suggestion.
What I meant in that sentence is that you can get the starters at the start of the registration in the lab already, even if they are rare, but to get the Kalos starters you needed to trade 50 gems of their primary type so to get it at the start of the registration seems really unfair for the older users.
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Posted: Thu, 14/07/2016 11:54 (7 Years ago)
Okay, Though I feel otherwise, as Newer user miss the events, and limited-time stuff (I'm looking at you, Tom Nook Seller), I respect your opinion.
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Posted: Wed, 20/07/2016 19:28 (7 Years ago)
My favourite starter is Fennekin, and although I didn't mind getting a Torchic, I would've preferred to have received my original choice. Support!
Morbid
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Posted: Thu, 21/07/2016 17:41 (7 Years ago)
Everyone is to be treated fairly, no matter if they are an older user or not. Sure, newbies should get help but if an older user need help they also can get it even if it sounds noob-ish. Older users get a bunch of things earlier in the game but only if they work for it. They deserve it fairly and if a newer user complains them for getting it fairly with their own energy and time then I don't really understand people at all, seems like everyone is always looking for something to complain about these days.

Though, if everyone would get a chance to re-choose their starter if this is ever were to be implemented, it would even it out.

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Posted: Mon, 25/07/2016 06:57 (7 Years ago)
wasnt this allready applied
Morbid
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Posted: Mon, 25/07/2016 07:45 (7 Years ago)
No
PkmnTrainerV
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Posted: Mon, 25/07/2016 11:52 (7 Years ago)
Then, I guess that the red and blue orbs shouldn't be made to be found from mystery boxes and keys after the ORAS event?
Then, Darkrai should not be available after the darktober event as a permanent addition.
Then, Raylong should not be made into a permanent quest...
Then Retro Pikachu should not have been distributed again?
And according to your logic, Giratina orbs should not be found outside of the Halloween event.

Anything else?
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Posted: Fri, 29/07/2016 18:59 (7 Years ago)
Support, Great idea, need atention of the team master.
Morbid
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Posted: Sun, 31/07/2016 07:15 (7 Years ago)
@PkmnTrainerV

…What is your point here? You're only contradicting yourself. My logic? ;
Those who work hard enough to get something, an item, an object in a game deserve it if they work for it. Sometimes hard work requires time.
Are you a click-maniac that can click 10,000 a day when you're stuck on a phone?
Is Darkrai an event pokèmon associated with an event?: No, nightmare isn't a halloween thing, you get them every day of the year, does Darkrai plays a role in Halloween 2015 Quest Event as an antagonist? yeah.
Is Shaymin obtainable every Summer by clicking, also by random chance? Is Shaymin associated with summer, canonly? Yes.
Can Sky Gifts can only be sent in Summer? Yes, it's an event-exclusive feature in summer.
Are Red and Blue Orbs obtained by scoring in the top 100 clicking a lot in ORAS event? Are Mega Kyogre and Groudon event-exclusive in the game?
Giratina Orbs— Let me repeat a point, Giratina isn't an exclusive Pokèmon associated with Halloween just because it's spoopy scary spider 666 limbs. Giratina is one of the legendary in the creation trio that represent antimatter; now tell me that make sense as a halloween exclusive Pokèmon becaude it isn't. It was distributed in Halloween merely by it's sinister nature (violent Pokèdex entries) and appearance.

Those things you listed were made (semi) permanent because it make sense and you need to do things to get it, not sit on your butt complaining it's too hard or unfair. They aren't 100% limited but not too reserved either.

What we're talking about right now is a starter Pokèmon everyone gets at the start of the game, you literally don't do anything to get it other than registering onto the site. Older users literally can't get it, like, 'nO you can't have it old-timer, you got cooler stuff before noooo?', like, in all honestly we can't just get a Chespin as our starter and have it written on our profile identity. Older users may have also spent gems on it and while it may seem cheap you can't deny that getting something for free when others must do something to get is unfair.


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Posted: Wed, 11/08/2021 17:41 (2 Years ago)
So I'm just going to revive this *bump*

Support from me, I want the starters of the last 3 generations to be available for newbies! I mean I don't think they should be different from the other starters :/
GracefulEevee
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Posted: Thu, 12/08/2021 06:27 (2 Years ago)
Yes, personally, Popplio is my favourite starter, and I actually just joined today and was quite dissapointed to not find Popplio on the starter wiki page.

But if new users can get more selections of starters, it actually isn't fair to everyone who have already joined. So really, I don't know.
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Posted: Thu, 12/08/2021 12:07 (2 Years ago)
Since the Kalos starters aren't "special" anymore after they were removed from the Gem Collector's catalogue, I don't see any reason why this shouldn't be implemented. I honestly figured the available starters were updated as new gens are introduced. I guess that's what I get for not paying attention to people's starters on their profiles. :,D

I also want to address this line of reasoning for not supporting the suggestion even if this quote is years old:
Quote from MorbidWhat we're talking about right now is a starter Pokèmon everyone gets at the start of the game, you literally don't do anything to get it other than registering onto the site. Older users literally can't get it, like, 'nO you can't have it old-timer, you got cooler stuff before noooo?', like, in all honestly we can't just get a Chespin as our starter and have it written on our profile identity. Older users may have also spent gems on it and while it may seem cheap you can't deny that getting something for free when others must do something to get is unfair.

Not making something available to new users because it would be unfair to the old users is a petty and flawed argument in my opinion. Just because the users registered today had to "suffer" through not having the full roster of starters to choose from doesn't mean future users should "suffer" the same just to be "fair."

You don't just refuse to right a wrong because other people have been wronged before.

It's been years some of these starters have been out and it's pretty bizarre they're still not included in such a basic and integral pokemon mechanic as starter selection. KrazyKarp said it excellently:
Quote from KrazyKarpWhile I do think it's a good idea to implement special ways to get starters from new regions at first, after the region has been out in the games for a long time, it's also a good idea to begin treating the "new" starters as "old" and/or "regular" starters.

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AthenaHere
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Posted: Thu, 12/08/2021 12:22 (2 Years ago)
I feel bad for everyone who couldn't get the starter they wanted. But I see that GracefulEevee has a point. Adding the new starters now wouldn't be fair to all those who have already joined.
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