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Pokemon Fusion Chamber's

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BakaDraco
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Posted: Fri, 21/08/2015 23:14 (9 Years ago)
Also please read EVERYTHING or a majority of it because I am assuming most of you are just gonna read 1 sentence and be like "This is stupid." To truly understand the argument you must read everything

I think it would be a good idea to implement Fusion Sprites to Pokeheroes. The concept would be that a player would to the Pokemon Fusion Chamber (Or some other name) and be able to fuse 2 of their Pokemon together. This would allow more people to have jobs on Pokeheroes as artist who want to be one and let's them show their skill.

This would allow players who just play Pokeheroes to get the new event Pokemon to play more often. Think about it, there are players who just play Pokeheroes to get the new event Pokemon, adding Pokemon Fusion Chambers and allowing more art makers to sign up will create more of a constant flow of newly made Pokemon to Pokeheroes which causes those types of players who only play to get event Pokemon and such to play more often and have a better constant flow of players online, this makes other players have extra clicks when they go to the random user list and allow people to meet those players who just play for event Pokemon to see each other more often and allow them to become friends.

I understand this would be quite difficult to do if were going to make fusions for EVERY Pokemon but my idea was to ONLY allow players to fuse the final evolutions of Pokemon with each other (i.e Typhlosion and Venasaur) but you can't fuse other's below their ONLY form or their 3 evolutionary stage (Meaning you can fuse 1 stage pokemon like Heracross and legendaries but you can't fuse Mareep who can evolve). And you also can only fuse 3 Pokemon because art makers would have to make more and more sprites making them more busy, 3 is I think the maximum Pokemon that should be fused together to help artist slow down.

Players would have to pay 15K PD for every Pokemon used as a fusion so they would only pay a maximum 45K PD for a fusion. I understand that making that many fusions will be difficult so I personally think making Fusions that are hard to make (i.e A Mega Charizard X with Zekrom) that way in the time that people are trying to get that fusion the artists can make more and once they finish that level of difficulty to achieve that fusion they can start making fusions that are easier to get slowly and slowly.

Players would also be allowed to De-Fuse their fusions by paying the original price of the fusion + 10% of the money used to make it, so a fusion consisting of 2 Pokemon which cost 30K PD can be de-fused with a cost of 40PD. I find that most players have enough money to fuse Pokemon and de-fusing obviously will be expensive but it is unlikely that most people will de-fuse their Pokemon considering they are hard to get the Pokemon for and they have stronger stats than normal Pokemon

The Fusion Pokemon's stats should be based off the Pokemon used for the fusion stat's (Meaning if I fused a Pokemon with a lot of Speed with a Pokemon that had a lot of defense then that fusion should have a lot of speed and defense because of the Pokemon implemented in it). Type's would also not be a problem considering that most fusions look like 2 types of the top of your head. Even if you used 2 Pokemon that each have 2 types, the fusion should be able to easily identify what type(s) it is based on it's design. Even if this is a problem you could have multi-type Pokemon, I do understand that would make that one Fusion much stronger do to it's multi typing but considering the difficulty to make that fusion with 2 {okemon, it is reasonable. Even if this does portray a problem we could aways have the fusion become an egg and they would have to re-level it.

That is my statement of why I think implementing Pokemon Fusions is a good idea. If you have another theory on why this is a good idea please post it in this thread or Pal Pad me that way I can add it to this post, and that 1 extra idea you send me could cause me and others to think of other ideas like that one sort of like a chain reaction. If you do have a negative about this to post feel free to post and I might be able to think of a reason why that could be fixed or just have that as a problem. Good Day to you all and have fun!

These are possible fusions people can make for this idea. And even if they are not an artist they could still suggest this idea because they like to sprite.
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This Fusion would consist of an Arcanine and a Mega Charizard X and based on it's appearance it is easy to determine it's typing, based on statement before. This Pokemon looks like a Fire and Flying type, even though Arcanine is Fire, and Mega Charizard X is Dragon/Fire. Sprites like this do not even have to be complex.

This Sprite is not very complex, it just adds Mega Charizard X's wings and it's flames. They do not have to be this simple but they do not need to be extremely complex. Again it is pretty easy to determine it's typing. Now it is debatable which typing this is, personally I think it looks like a Fire/Dragon or a Fire/Flying. We could solve this debatable question by making polls on Pokeheroes or allowing the artist to choose what they think it, then the majority would in.


Thanks to Craig I have created a backstory
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Emera was in need for powerful to stop an even threat of Team (Rocket, Magma, etc) so they decided to create Fusion Chambers that allowed pokemon to fuse into a more powerful form. This then would Emera to stop them, and the people of Emera made more and more fusions to prevent this from ever happening



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Posted: Sat, 22/08/2015 03:02 (9 Years ago)
No support from me.
Event pokemons are events pokemon got by a special eventsuch as the event distribution. They are not meant to be just simple fusions.

This site is based on the real pokèmon games and the pokemon game does not have fusion. The event pokemons are emera town excluse which would make sense but why is a fusion chamber? How did it happened? Did it just poof out of nowhere?

This suggestion is like the shadow pokemons suggestion, you suggest a pokèmon and that's it. No reason why is there the pokemon and how it happened and why does it happen. So it basically happens because some kid in the sky wants fusion pokemon and then boop it exist because they threw their money somewhere to someone.

If I ever want to have fusion pokèmons to 'collect' them, I would just go to the many spriting threads, order it and put in my diary.

You can just hoard pokèmons or keep your shiny hunt extras for more clicks.

This game is about collecting all sorts of pokemon and not just event pokemons. That defeats the whole purpose of it.
BakaDraco
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Posted: Sat, 22/08/2015 03:33 (9 Years ago)
Thanks for stating your opinion, here is what I have to say in reply

For your 1st statement) When did I ever say Event pokemon were just simple fusions. I did mention event Pokemon but I did not from my memory say they were just fusions.

Your 2nd and 3rd statement) I have added a backstory to the main post, in may not be the best but it is somewhat reasonable especially when you are considering that every single pokemon team (Rocket, Magma, Aqua, etc) are joining forces and are attacking Emera then you really might have to think about it. And this could also lead to another event maybe called "Are you Good or Evil?" which would be about Emera Town VS All Pokemon Teams

For your 4th statement)You do realize not everyone has the PD to buy sprites and sometimes they are not good looking or what the buyer want's. The idea of fusion was to make more of a purpose than buying them and collecting them as you never really use them except for avatars and signatures but by then most people have a better avatar than a sprite and a better signature. I am not saying I don't realize people can collect them, I am saying sprites that are made by people and that are bought or collected serves really no purpose.

For your 5th Statement)Yes But Fusions don't serve entirely for that reason, that gives an extremely minor good reason to them

For your 6th game) I understand that but once you have collected all the pokemon the game serves no purpose to most players unless they have a shop or they roleplay. And since thiss game is about collecting all sorts or pokemon, fusions would add to that and make it harder to do because you would have to achieve every single fusion combination on Pokeheroes so it would be difficult. They would also have to wait till a new event comes out, which takes quiet a while or till next year when the new waves come. So this adds a more constant feed of sprites for those users who play for collecting pokemon.


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Posted: Sat, 22/08/2015 03:57 (9 Years ago)
No support.

First, you didn't explain everything that clearly. You used Venusaur as a "final evolution" example, but then used Mega Charizard X as your sprite example. So are Charizard and Venusaur "final evolutions" or do you have to mega evolve them?

If you want to collect all the pokemon for your living dex, this means you'd need a second mega-evolved version of all the mega-ables for fusion. Personally, I want to complete my living dex, so this would be an extra strain on top of what I have already. Now, before you attempt rebuking this, you have to realize on PH, where a living dex is necessary, a LOT of people are collecting to complete their dex, and exclusive fusions to ph would require the extra amount.

Third, Emera is a "safe" town. Most suggestions that mention the teams are rejected because Emera is a safe place, no teams, no danger. Thats part of the Emera "lore" that I really like, and adding the evil teams to give fusion a reason is a cop-out.

Fourth, I'd rather have unique events than fusions tbh. It does NOT take that much work to get an event, I got Seatran without even interacting that much.

And fifth, if you don't have enough money to buy a sprite, you don't have enough to pay for the fusion? Unless you make fusing pokemon WAAAY cheap (which riako would never accept), it would be less expensive to get a sprite.

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weskyspuppy
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Posted: Sat, 22/08/2015 07:59 (9 Years ago)
What I wanted to say pretty much have been said by Nessy, but I will add this

When did I ever say Event pokemon were just simple fusions.
And when did I said event pokèmons aren't just simple fusios? Let me direct to your what I exatly said
Event pokemons are events pokemon got by a special event such as the event distribution. They are not meant to be just simple fusions.
Because you clearly stated on the first post
Think about it, there are players who just play Pokeheroes to get the new event Pokemon.
You were intending the fusions to be some sort of event pokèmons because appranrly everyone wants those. So tenically you are saying fusions are events pokèmons even when you not meant to do it.

And like what Nessy said, Emera Town is a peaceful, harmonious town. I like that and I want it to stay that way. I don't want to play games where you grow up little creatures in a very dire situation where you just have to fuse them with another being just to fight some lame-os criminals wannabes

You do realize not everyone has the PD to buy sprites
Let me direct you to something you suggested on the main post
Players would have to pay 15K PD for every Pokemon used as a fusion so they would only pay a maximum 45K PD for a fusion.
And lookie at this shop which only charges 5,000/10,000 for a fusion.
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Oh look! A shop that offers free fusions!

…and sometimes they are not good looking or what the buyer want's.
And how do you know the spriter's work will not be 'what the buyer want's'. They cannot be changed because guess what! It an official sprite now! Unless a lot of people say they want it to be changed for very 'good' reasons. So if you order it instead, you can easily ask for changes.

I apologize if anything I say sounds rude
Furret
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Posted: Sat, 22/08/2015 08:33 (9 Years ago)
I also do not give my support - here's why:

You are saying that this will attract more people here who like to collect Events, correct? Like Nessy said, creating exclusive fusions would add a ton of work load on top of the Dex fillers. Some people might join PH just to fill the Dex, but having exclusive fusions would make it far too tedious.

I also don't get how exactly you'd have this work. Would people just type in the fusion they want, and have it sent in for someone to make? There are sprite shops for that. I have many friends who dabble in spriting and most of them have a fusion option in their shop.
Having people pay 15k to get a fusion made when they can go to a sprite shop and get one for 5k or less seems rather pointless.

Personally I wouldn't like having Event Fusions. I really enjoy the Events we have now. I know the Spriters put time and effort into their sprites, and then we have to work to get them in the Event Distribution.
Which brings up another thing - from what I get from this, it just seems like anyone could make a fusion whenever they wanted, and have it become an "Event." Well, an Event is a thing that happens at a specific time, and then it's un-available. So if people made "Event" fusions whenever they want, it wouldn't really be an Event.

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Posted: Sat, 22/08/2015 10:55 (9 Years ago)
No support, the reasons have already been stated.

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Posted: Sun, 23/08/2015 02:16 (9 Years ago)
No support from me either, for reasons already stated
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Posted: Fri, 28/08/2015 12:09 (9 Years ago)
No support from me either. Reasons pretty much already stated.
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Posted: Fri, 28/08/2015 15:24 (9 Years ago)
I actually think this sounds really cool, but I've got to come in with no support. If I'm not mistaken, pokeheroes pays it's artists, right? Paying artists to do THAT many spirites is... well.

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Posted: Sat, 16/07/2016 19:42 (8 Years ago)
Due to the amount of no's for the support, and the fact that Pokemon fusion outside of the kyurem fusions are not likely to be implemented at all, this suggestion will be locked and moved to rejected.


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