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Is Phione a Legendary?

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Posted: Fri, 27/03/2015 16:50 (9 Years ago)
on the title =D

I think she is.
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Posted: Fri, 27/03/2015 16:53 (9 Years ago)
Phione is not a legendary Pokemon. Along with Rotom and Spiritomb.

You can get as many of them as you want from breeding, Phione itself can be bred for more Phione (which is something no legendary can do, and breeding with Manaphy doesn't give you another Manaphy), and in the main games you never capture it in traditional legendary style (talking to it in the overworld, catching it like you do Cresselia, special movie distribution, or anything like that).

While it may being the offspring of a legendary and part of the Sea Guardians, it's stats are subpart for a legendary, and I really don't see what it represent's that Manaphy doesn't already. Additionally it's too easy to get to really amount to being a legendary which are generally considered rare.
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Posted: Fri, 27/03/2015 16:55 (9 Years ago)
@Toothie well, Manaphy can breed and is a legendary.
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Posted: Fri, 27/03/2015 16:58 (9 Years ago)
Quote from My Postbreeding with Manaphy doesn't give you another Manaphy

Quote from My PostWhile it may being the offspring of a legendary and part of the Sea Guardian[...]

It can only breed to make Phione.

I like to think of it this way:

When a legendary man/woman has a child, is that child considered to be legendary?
-No
Manaphy is a Legendary pokemon. Thus its offspring are not.
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Posted: Sat, 28/03/2015 01:24 (9 Years ago)
Phione is only half a legendary. So no, it's not.

I get why people would argue for Rotom, but why Phione? Just because it comes from a legendary doesn't make it one.
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Posted: Sat, 28/03/2015 01:47 (9 Years ago)
It's definitely confirmed that Phione isn't legendary, along with Rotom and Spiritomb. Since Manaphy is mythical, a legendary coming from a mythical would totally not make sense. There is debate about whether or not Phione mythical, though, but I don't believe it is.
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Posted: Sat, 11/04/2015 20:30 (9 Years ago)
my pokemon dictionary (real book) says its legendary.

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Posted: Sat, 11/04/2015 20:42 (9 Years ago)
My friend's Pokémon book says that Kadabra is posion/flying.
And as many have stated, it is confirmed NOT legendary.

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Posted: Wed, 15/04/2015 23:59 (9 Years ago)
Manaphy is a legendary phione is rare
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Posted: Fri, 17/04/2015 05:32 (9 Years ago)
Phione is a part of the Sea Guardians, a Legendary Duo. It has many caracteristics that make it more common than any other, but, in my oppinion, it's a Legendary Pokemon.

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Posted: Tue, 23/06/2015 04:50 (9 Years ago)
I guess I more consider it to be an legendary offspring, like half-gods in mythology :D but the fact that it's part of a duo also states it's legendary status.
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Posted: Sat, 23/04/2016 15:05 (8 Years ago)
But then again, there's the entire tomato debate.
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Posted: Sat, 23/04/2016 15:49 (8 Years ago)
no
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Posted: Sat, 23/04/2016 16:13 (8 Years ago)
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Quote from Bulbapedia
Mythical status

Phione's status as a Mythical Pokémon is disputed, with several pieces of evidence and even official statements often contradicting each other.

Evidence for
In the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon series: In Explorers of Time, Darkness and Sky, Phione has a 100% recruit rate, is never battled, and the player is not allowed to recruit more than one to their team, all of which are traits otherwise only exhibited by Legendary and Mythical Pokémon.
In Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon, it is explicitly referred to as a Mythical Pokémon.

Phione is banned from the Battle Frontier, the Battle Subway, the Pokémon World Tournament, and the Battle Maison, a rule which typically applies only to Mythical Pokémon and major Legendary Pokémon. The only officially-revealed non-Mythical Pokémon to have been event-only at one point, Zorua and Zoroark, were allowed in the Battle Subway, indicating Phione's battle facility ban may be due to its status. Phione is also banned from most online competitions and online battles.
Phione is banned from the 2016 Video Game Championships due to being a Mythical Pokémon.

Phione is not found in any regional Pokédex, a trait that is otherwise exclusive to Generation IV Legendary and Mythical Pokémon.
In Pokémon Rumble Blast, Phione can only be unlocked once a certain number of customers have shopped at the Toy Shop, a trait otherwise exclusive to Legendary and Mythical Pokémon.
Phione was featured in Pokémon.com's 2012 Pokémon Power Bracket, a single-elimination tournament where all other Pokémon in the bracket were Legendary and Mythical Pokémon.
Phione was a usable Pokémon in the Circle of Legends tournament, in which only Legendary and Mythical Pokémon were allowed.

Evidence against
Phione can breed to produce another Phione; this is impossible with any other Legendary and Mythical Pokémon. However, Manaphy can also breed to produce Phione, and Manaphy is a confirmed Mythical Pokémon.
Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver: Prima's Official Strategy Guide states that Phione is not Legendary, due to it being able to be obtained by hatching Eggs.
In Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs, all Legendary Pokémon are referred to as Legendary, and all Mythical Pokémon are referred to as "rare," but Phione is referred to as neither. It is also found normally in the wild.

Other
Pokémon.com's mailbag was once asked if Phione was Legendary. The official answer was initially no, but was quickly changed to yes;

That being said, I think of it as sort of the Pokémon equivalent of a Demigod.
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Posted: Sun, 10/07/2022 20:55 (2 Years ago)
I find it funny that you can just get it from the pokemon lab
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Posted: Sun, 10/07/2022 21:00 (2 Years ago)
You can with ditto and the legend birds too^
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Posted: Sat, 16/07/2022 22:43 (2 Years ago)
No
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Posted: Wed, 20/07/2022 12:52 (2 Years ago)
I think it is a MYTHICAL, because it's descended from Manaphy, which to my knowledge has always been an event Pokémon, and therefore a mythical, making Phione a mythical, but not a legendary
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Posted: Wed, 20/07/2022 13:24 (2 Years ago)
Well yes, but actually no