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Full support, IT'S OVER 9000!!

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Thank you for your support!
*Bump!*

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I support the idea but there could be problems and obstacles in the way. like in the futre Lag to the highest with about 50k user having maybe around 100 per user which will cause massive lag. some of shops will have to be removed since it already part of the mall and etc.



ok im done i cant explain it very well*zips lips*

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amazing. There arent enough numbers im the world to show how much support i can give (Dont think about it too much at all)

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This sounds like a lot of fun, full support~! ^^

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Support x Infinity :D:D:D:D:D
(It's over 9000!!!!!)

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Thank you for your support! ^^

Joe, this might cause lag, but remember that we do store tons of items in our item bags with minimal problems. If Riako stores which items were available in a similar way to how he stores which items you own in your bag, lag hopefully won't be a problem. However, I do agree that it may be problematic that it is so similar to Emera Mall (the few differences I pointed out near the bottom of page 1 aside). ^^"

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I totally support this. I loved Join Avenue in the games, and this will just as great if not better.

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So basically, it's like a shop, but simpler?

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Bumping this up so people can vote in the poll~

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Bump~

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Bump! ^^

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Bump!

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This sounds like... It would be a lot of work for the programmers...

However it also sounds kind of fun and cool. Hrm. Maybe there is a way to make this work for PH.

What if... Join Avenue became a rumble area, instead? The items available would still be kinda random, the map could still be leveled up... Would this approach suit PH better?

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I don't really like the idea of it being a rumble area. We already have quite a few of those, and it isn't anywhere close to the idea of what Join Avenue is.

However, I think that there should be a trainer level requirement in order to unlock it. Maybe around trainer level 10 or so, it become available? Because in the game, you still had to progress in the story enough to unlock it.

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But the point of Join Avenue is that it's a place where your friends run shops, just like in the official games.
Taking away the "varying based on friends" aspect of it makes it possible to make it a Rumble area, yes, but it also defeats the purpose and uniqueness of the Avenue in the first place.
Also, Join Avenue is supposed to be a *currently active* (apparently unlike the Playground) bustling mall area - why would it be a place so dangerous that only Pokémon can explore it and they need exploration supplies to do so? XD

Death, I think that does make sense. I'll add it to the post. ^^

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...Oh, okay. I understand a bit more now. Hrm. Well... I'm still thinking of the programmers, I guess.

The way you describe Join Avenue... It could almost function as a clicklist that allows each trainer to go through everyone on their friendlist... But I thought a rumble area might be more interesting. *shrugs* What if it were a place not for the pokemon but for the trainers? What if it were a rumble area where the prizes got better, the more trainers that were exploring it?

Please excuse my active imagination. =F

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Feel free to make your own suggestion like that. ^^ However, this will stay as it is, since I'm trying to keep it as close to Join Avenue as possible; that once again seems more like some other linking feature (in fact, a Rumble Area that is better if more people are exploring actually sounds like a perfect fit for the Entralink/Entree Forest, if you do feel like suggesting it [I won't suggest it myself because it was your idea, but I do think it could make for an awesome feature!]).
I'd also like to point out that choosing not to support a suggestion because of how hard it is is discouraged. Since Riako is the one doing the coding, he should be the one to decide what's too hard, rather than people who don't know how he works or how skilled he is. He should decide on how to simplify it and limit it - if he is CAPABLE of doing it, there's no reason of limiting him simply because "it might be hard," and we can't know for sure that he isn't until he says so himself. ^^

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Thank you. Okay.

Please understand. I do respect your suggestion but currently I don't see how it isn't redundant to a lot of the features we already have on this site. You are correct in that Riako should - and no doubt, will - be the one who decides whether it would be difficult/practical to implement. But whenever a suggestion entails a lot of work for the programmer, it does also tend to add layers of difficultly for the players. That concerns me slightly. A lot of PH's appeal is in it's simplicity, I think. We have players here of all ages from all over the world. I wouldn't want this place to lose that unique charm.

Thank you. I think I will be making a suggestion of my own.

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... I'm afraid I don't understand?
When you first posted here, you only said it seemed hard to program and stated that that was why you were giving alternatives, but now you think it would be confusing to the players and would ruin PH's simplicity?
If you thought it was too complex, I kind of wish you would have said so right away rather than dancing around the matter and providing alternatives without simply telling me the actual problem. You say to please understand, as if I wasn't understanding what you were saying, and yet you then proceed to say exclusively new information you hadn't even mentioned before...

I would just like to point out that it's really not a complicated idea at all. The specific details I was giving existed only so Riako would know exactly how it would work; minus those details that only Riako needs to know, the users literally just have to understand "Join Avenue is a place where there are shops that are influenced by your Friendlist. If you socialize more and interact with those friends, the Avenue and the individual shops are made better! You can also mark a shop as a favorite if it is helpful to you so that you can always access it; the other shops change every day."

As for being redundant, I admit that yes, its purpose can simply be filled by the Emera Mall, but there are numerous other features that are simply alternative ways to do the same thing. Take the Gem Cauldron, for example - you could already get every single item in the Gem Cauldron through other means, but that didn't stop it from being added simply because it's nice to have multiple ways of doing things.
Additionally, there are no features that encourage actively interacting with friends, which is one of the main features of this.
No, it's not necessary, but it could potentially be nice (and, given how many other people support, it seems that people agree), and, as mentioned, some other features (such as the Gem Cauldron and Treasure Hunt) exist solely as alternate ways to get items that were already available - just like this.

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