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What I am suggesting is a way to reset your game. You lose all your pokemon/nuggets/items and all of your feeds get deleted. You lose everything but your starter and your PD returns to 2,000.
If you ever got bored (Even though you can't really get bored from all the features) you can try gaining all the items/pokemon again.
There's a small Q/A below.

Q: What if I accidentally reset my account?
A: There would be a popup asking you if you really wanted to reset it. Even if you had safe mode off.

Q: What are the requirements to reset my account?
A: Perhaps it could be that you had to be registered for a certain amount of time before being allowed to reset your game?

Q: What if I change my mind?
A: You would have five or so days to log back and cancel the reset.

Q: Is this really necessary? You are just spamming.
A: It's a simple suggestion. I never said it has to be implemented. It's just an idea I got, nothing serious.

Original idea from Howrse, Owlient. I do not claim it as my own idea.
I hope no one has posted a suggestion like this before. If they did, feel free to delete this forum thread!
For any questions you can ask them in this thread or by Private Messages/Palpad.

All in all it's an understandable idea, but what would happen to traded pokemon? If the Origin. Trainer deletes ALL their pokemon, then traded pokemon would be deleted. Thus, resulting in mass chaos, and that would certainly not be fair to anyone. Beside people could easily scam others;
e.g UserXY has a Lugia, and he trades it (or worse, loans it) to someone. UserAB gets the Lugia, and then deices to not return his end of the bargain, then he resets. I'm pretty sure being able to reset all your pokemon would cause much unneeded drama;
> Deleting pokemon other gifted/traded you could upset them.

Plus, as Riako once stated about deleting pokemon on banned accounts:

Quote from Riako

The reason why this doesn't work (properly) is a coding reason.
Let me (vaguely) explain how this counter works: When you click on a PokéDex Entry (let's say Pikachu #25), the server opens the list of all Pokémon, which are sorted by PokéDex Number. Now all the server has to do is find the first Pokémon with the PokéDex Number 25. Now that's fairly easy; imagine you look at a list of sorted numbers. Even when there are a million of numbers, you will easy find the number "25", because they're sorted.
Then the server starts counting: 1, 2, 3, 4, ... 1023, 1024... oops! Now the Number #26 appeared - I'm finished here! The result is 1024 Pikachu.
You can imagine that this works very fast.

But what if the server has to exclude all Pokémon from banned accounts now?
Server opens the Pokémon list, searches for first PokéDex Number 25, and then starts counting:
1 - who's the trainer of this? - okay, the trainer is Riako. - Is Riako banned? - Looks up if Riako is banned. - Okay, he's not banned.
2 - okay, the trainer is Troller1996. - Is Troller1996 banned? - Looks up if Troller1996 is banned. - Okay, he is banned - So I'm back to "1" now.
[etc.]

Can you imagine how slow that would be?

I'm pretty sure the same idea would apply here. If it was implemented, there would be a lot of coding to make sure everyone would be happy.
If you want to start fresh, just send all your PD to a friend, and release your pokemon.

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enderknux you have a point. That's why I said there should be a requirement. If you scam someone you will obviously get a warning/get banned correct? Since resetting isn't possible yet, they couldn't reset.
BUT.
What if the requirement was to not have any warnings on the topic of trading and such?

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Well, if a user decided to start fresh, then all the Pokemon with them as the OT will be deleted. That's clear.

Suppose I'm an HONEST user, emphasising on honest. I traded, say, a Volcanion to my friend. Now I decide to start new. And that Volcanion, including the countless Pokemon I've traded, will be deleted. Wouldn't it be unfair for those who bought stuff from me?
And I don't have any warnings, so I'm perfectly eligible for resetting.

ONLY the pokemon you own will be deleted. If you don't want to delete gifts you can trade them to another user to hold them for you.

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While you make a point, what if this is the first time they deiced to scam?
Honestly, no offense, but I only see drama coming from this being implemented. What about clicklists? Honestly, pokemon can't be deleted, rather they are released. Even then, the ID still exists for the pokemon. Meaning, if you were interacting, it's very likely you'd encounter (something like)this often. But either way, it just doesn't work with the coding of the site. To me, seems like more trouble than it's worth.

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Since I'm having a headache right now I'll spare some time and list the contradictions and questions from me in regards of your suggestion instead of writing a huge wall of text.

Most of the thing I was going to say while typing this had already been pointed out by enderknux but I do hope you understands it fully despite some being repeated.

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Q: What if I change my mind?
A: You would have five or so days to log back and cancel the reset.

This means that all of the items, currencies and pokèmons would go back to your account, yes?
Where would these things be kept, actually? Because when you reset you would lose everything you have and as far as I know, getting your pokèmon back once it's released (in this case, in a handful of numbers) is rather impossible and while I don't know whether or not Rialo can do it, he doesn't do it to the 4,000,000(or something similar) pokemon which was released (he mentioned it in a feed if I recall).

Said so yourself you can't get bored from all the features in PokèHeroes, yes? You pointed out some things that would be deleted and the point of the suggestion is to reset your account. Well then, let's talk about features of the website. If I, to say, reset my account, what happens to my medals? What will happen to my badges? What will happen to my plushies? What about Key Items? The Golden Pokèballs from Prof.Rowan? The rewards you get from Prof.Rowan? Will you get them again? What will happen to your Trainerlevel? I could go on but I think you get my point. You would need to expand your suggestions better and not center it around general things. There is a lot to be 'resetted' when you do reset but what will happen to these things and their causes? If the things I listed wont be resetted, move on to my next point.

If someone wants to 'reset' all they had to do was give away all of their stuff to other people. It's certainly better than giving all of them to the game system aka releasing them to the nothingness, such a waste of resources, really.

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But releasing all of your pokemon would be tiring, yes? Musashi, until the person confirmed (They could do it in five days) their reset the PD would stay on their account, as well as the items. Everything would be reset, items, quests, golden pokeballs...

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This would indirectly result in real money vanishing into nowhere. For eg. User A converted nuggets into DP to gift a Plushie to his close friend. Say, 200 nuggets, that would be 2$ in real money. Then, User B received the Plushie, and resettled sometime after. What will user A feel like? I think he would never send a shiny/rare Plushie to another user again.

And same goes with legendary events, events, retros and many, many more...

I may have been confused by the system you are trying to introduce here.

I shall list what I understood so far with your explanation;
- A reset feature to reset your account.
- A bunch of confirmations before it happens.
- Bam, all your stuff is gone. Poof, pokemon and stuff disappears, it's gone, it's dead Jim. You can't get it back becaude it's gone, released, deleted.
- Also all of your things.
- Quests are resetted also.
- Even your Key Items, Special Rumble Areas and achievements.
- Basically everything.
- Even trainerlevels, joy.
- Within 5 days of resetting you could take them back, somehow.

Don't you see the clear contradiction here?
I'll be repeating myself if I'm not clear enough previously, if something is deleted, it's deleted. It's gone and it's done.

Thanks to what you had just said I can easily point out what I had in mind;
Prof.Rowan quest, you can get a mega-able Charizard X and Y, Resolute Stone and Evolution Items. If you get a lot of these over and over and give it to others, it would be such a fall, won't it?
Medal Rally medals, the disappearance of it is rather hectic because they come with dates of when you get them.
Plushies- what would you do if you send a plushie to someone as a gesture of kindness and they just reset their account like they just don't care, deleting the plushies you sent.

Unless you can of course correctly tell me exactly how is this feature is going to function, make me understamd it better perhaps?

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Musashi makes a perfect point.
One could easily reset over and over again, just to do "one time things" and send profits to other users. This would totally destroy the fairness, and general smooth idea of pokeheroes. Musashi makes another good point with nuggets that I didn't even think of. Real money. This suggestion is giving users a way to flush away REAL money. I doubt something like that would be fair to anyone.

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How about this. You can only reset one time. Your medals stay. Your plushies also stay.

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I'd be so happy if I ever learn how to type quickly xD

Before I start my own spiel, I'd like to clarify a few things [give some context] to a few things mentioned, because I think there's some confusion about the matters ^^'
1. Release = deletion. If a pokémon is released it is essentially erased from site. All its data gets wiped, aside from the ID-number, which I'm pretty sure only stays, solely so the site doesn't try and assign a lower number to a new egg. It wouldn't make sense to adopt an egg today, that appears older in the link than it actually is, now would it ;) . I'm pretty sure it works more in a "Yes, there once was a pokémon with this number; no you're not allowed to use it" way ^^'

2. Riako posted that quote about excluding pokémon, not about deleted pokémon. Excluded pokémon (as the word itself says) would be pokémon that exist on site, but shouldn't appear in the list for whatever reason. It was about a suggestion that wouldn't count pokémon from banned accounts; pokémon that exist (aren't released/deleted), but don't benefit from interactions, because the user who has them, isn't allowed on PokéHeroes anymore (temporarily or permanently).
Deleted pokémon simply don't exist anymore. When scanning a user page for pokémon, only pokémon that actually exist in the boxes/party/DayCare will show up in the list.

3. If an existing ID causes it to show up in the clicklist/while interacting, why isn't that happening already? As far as I know, it's not possible for a deleted ("released") pokémon to show up in the clicklist, because it checks whether or not there's actual data connected to the ID. If it solely worked, based on the IDs that are currently on site, without cross referencing anything, the click lists would be filled with error messages ^^'
If there's such an error, it's because the pokémon was deleted after the list was made maybe the user was distracted, but aside from the first few hiccups when the click lists were first introduced, I haven't seen this happen in a very long time.


Now, about the actual suggestion - I don't support. If users get bored, releasing all their pokémon really shouldn't be any more of a chore than logging in and doing the same "mundane" things as ever before. Deciding for yourself whether or not you want to release a certain pokémon, would also remove the necessity of trading with your friends to "save" certain pokémon [and remove the chance of taking unfair advantage of this feature].
What's the use of resetting, if you're just gonna trade (at least some of) those pokémon to a friend, so you can get them back later. This would also mess with some once-of-an-account life occasions; the Resolute Stone, for example. What's to stop users from sending over 200+ pokémon, so they can get the 200 EggDex entries as quickly as possible (through the DayCare) claim their "first" Resolute Stone, send it over, together with the 200 pokémon and restore.
They haven't really reset their account, so there's no reason they shouldn't be able to "change their mind" and reset "this time for realsies", only not.
Same goes for the Charizard X/Y you get from Rowan. Get the necessary entries, get the egg, hatch, trade (rinse and repeat). PokéHeroes would turn into the equivalent of Soft-resetting your game, hoping for a random shiny, rather than about interacting/hunting.

And, a good point that was brought up - what about the real money that was spent?
Now, I personally don't agree that a user should be upset that they sent a plushie to a user who decided to reset their account. If it was implemented, they should know that's a possibility and they have no say over what happens to the account/the plushies they gifted.
I'm more referring to the >50 nuggets limit when it comes to gifting nuggets to someone. Would it make a difference between "Daily Reward" nuggets and user-originated nuggets?
Plushies are only one of the things that can be bought with nuggets; what about event pokémon you got through buying Event Points? Shiny Events you hunted through the Event Pass?

All in all, there are too many loopholes in this, for something that can simply be achieved by releasing your pokémon and sending your items to a friend. Yes, this would be tiresome, but resetting/restarting something shouldn't be an easy decision to make, which is exactly what your suggestion would do.

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No support
This suggestion just has too many loopholes, comtradictions, and things that don't make sense. I don't believe the headache this would cause outweighs the small amount of less time it would take for a person to do a self-reset by releasing all their Pokémon, trading/selling all their items, etc.

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