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Ash-Greninja

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                                                Posted: Mon, 11/01/2016 09:10                                                (8 Years ago)
                                            

So, in the Pokémon Anime, a mysterious Kalos phenomenon is discussed.

Quote from Pokemon Site (These are not the exact words but nearly) When Ash and his Greninja's bond raises to the limit, Greninja gains the features of his Trainer. This also happened to another pokemon in Kalos thousands of years ago....

So why can't this form debut PH? Most suggestions are rejected by saying suggest the method, So, here's one possible method.

A new Ancient Cave Quest

In the ancient cave, there is a quest to proof that the bond between you and your Greninja is great. You will be asked to battle 10 powerful (possibly Mega Evolved) pokemon* using ONLY your Greninja one by one. When you manage to defeat all of them, you will recieve a new Item- " Trainer Accessories "* [New Name Abiltiy Capsule]. This Item when given to greninja, will change its form. The entry would be under Emera dex. Greninja's stats would increase, like mega evolution.

Method 2- A new Event
If the ancient quest seems like a big to-do for Riako, it could be made into an event-exclusive item, like the mega giratina item.

Q. 1Is this item tradeable?
No, as players have to prove bond with their own Pokemon .

Q. 2Is this usable on any Greninja?
No, it must have the OT and the current trainer of the Trainer who is performing this operation. You should have that Greninja for a fixed time, Ex. You should've raised it for 100* levels

Q. 3Is the changed Greninja tradeable?
Based on Official Info, I couldn't find a true answer for that. So, I'll leave it for Riako to decide.

Note- The fields which have a '*' after them can be changed by Riako
Thank you!

(it's currently work-in-progress)

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                                                Posted: Mon, 11/01/2016 09:15                                                (8 Years ago)
                                            

Kinda hard to implement the "When Greninja is attacked in this form, the trainer will also feel the pain" part, no?
Also, there is no evidence of any other Greninja other than Ash's doing this, and no known reason for this (unlike some other changed pokemon suggestions which have a certain reason they change).

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                                                Posted: Mon, 11/01/2016 09:26                                                (8 Years ago)
                                            

There is evidence. The pokemon site says that this happened to another pokemon in Kalos thousands of years ago. I remember researching about it.

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                                                Posted: Mon, 11/01/2016 09:31                                                (8 Years ago)
                                            

I meant other than that- the fact that it only occurs once every thousands of years makes it quite rare, which means that not every pokemon who has a strong bond with his trainer will be able to activate it.

EDIT: Adding up on this, I doubt that Ash is the only one to form such a close bond with Greninja in the anime, seeing as how Pokemon are part of everyones' daily lives. This means that Ash was selected specifically for this ability and thus other Greninjas doing it wouldn't be likely.

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                                                Posted: Mon, 11/01/2016 11:01                                                (8 Years ago)
                                            

I don't really see the point in this.
To me, it's really unnecessary and if you want Ash-formed things you can always hatch the Satichu line since it's based off of Ash.

Also, another thing about this...

QuoteQ. 2Is this usable on any Greninja?
No, it must have the OT and current trainer of the Trainer who is performing this operation

If you're really trying to base things/be true to the anime, this wouldn't be the same because Ash's Greninja has had multiple trainers before Ash.

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                                                Posted: Mon, 11/01/2016 11:04                                                (8 Years ago)
                                            

But it always ran off. But it didn't run from Ash. It was written in the stars that they would meet.

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                                                Posted: Mon, 11/01/2016 11:07                                                (8 Years ago)
                                            

Just because it "ran off" but decided to stay with Ash doesn't mean Ash is its Original Trainer and it still doesn't meet your own criteria for your own suggestion.

I'm sorry, but I'm sticking with No Support.

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                                                Posted: Mon, 11/01/2016 23:24                                                (8 Years ago)
                                            

I can't say for certain, but "Ash Greninja" and other Pokemon like it may be introduced in sequel games. I think it's better to wait to see if that is indeed the case.

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                                                Posted: Mon, 11/01/2016 23:44                                                (8 Years ago)
                                            

no support.
Ash-Greninja's appearence is similiar to Ash, HOWEVER, we aren't Ash. and if an <username>-Greninja transformation happened, Riako problably doesn't know our real appearence to put into the Greninja.

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                                                Posted: Tue, 12/01/2016 01:40                                                (8 Years ago)
                                            

Also, in my opinion, this event would be far too similar to one we already have

Satochu already has Ash's appearance

-So, in Emera, he's the one who ended up looking like Ash, not Greninja

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                                                Posted: Sat, 16/01/2016 14:12                                                (8 Years ago)
                                            

And I have 3 doubts-
1. How is it a SPAM?
2. Where has it been suggested before? Please give the link before putting this up.
3. And HOW does it simplify a feature?

This is unfair that I have got 3 "not implements" unjustly. Sorry if I am rude.

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                                                Posted: Sun, 08/05/2016 09:46                                                (7 Years ago)
                                            

Bump!

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                                                Posted: Wed, 25/05/2016 07:02                                                (7 Years ago)
                                            

Bump!

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                                                Posted: Wed, 25/05/2016 07:07                                                (7 Years ago)
                                            

I find it kinda rude that you didn't address my counterargument

Quote from NessyAlso, in my opinion, this event would be far too similar to one we already have

Satochu already has Ash's appearance

-So, in Emera, he's the one who ended up looking like Ash, not Greninja

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                                                Posted: Wed, 25/05/2016 07:15                                                (7 Years ago)
                                            

Well, Satichu is an event which happened almost 3 years ago. And it has a common rarity.
Whereas, I'm suggesting of something, which is more recent and fresh (and is probably more than an event distribution, more like a forme change).

Satichu was an event, but Greninja is a forme change.
It would be just like comparing Teddurisa (Misderavious) to Jesterig.

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                                                Posted: Wed, 25/05/2016 17:05                                                (7 Years ago)
                                            

This HAS been suggested. I'll try to find the thread.

No support from me for reasons already stated.

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                                                Posted: Wed, 25/05/2016 18:15                                                (7 Years ago)
                                            

I don't think this has been suggested or the other thread would have shown up on google when I type it in,I think it's a great idea,evenually ash gerninja will happen sooner or later on here anyway at least that's what I think and I see no harm in suggesting ideas for it

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                                                Posted: Wed, 25/05/2016 18:22                                                (7 Years ago)
                                            

@Blizzardkitty
Ash-Greninja probably wont happen because of things already mentioned. And why would you Google it?

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                                                Posted: Wed, 25/05/2016 19:02                                                (7 Years ago)
                                            

where? o.o and I google thinngs when I'm bored XD

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                                                Posted: Sat, 29/10/2016 10:25                                                (7 Years ago)
                                            

Based on official info, changed up the suggestion a bit.
EDIT 1-
The Greninja can have any OT. It should've raised some levels in our ownership to show that bond.

EDIT 2-
The item is changed from Trainer Accessories/Clothes to Abiltiy Capsule. I thought it may be the most logical choice, since the form comes from Abiltiy. Riako can choose another name, of course.