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locked account balancing

Forum-Index Suggestions Rejected locked account balancing
keife191
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Posted: Mon, 16/11/2015 12:18 (8 Years ago)
Quote from CarpetMonsterbut given the way that forum posts, the OT of a Pokémon, and other things work, deleting accounts is almost impossible


Quote from Riakoexactly this.

Otherwise even this thread would propably be full of error messages. And that's not the only data that is stored about your activity on PokéHeroes. I would have to delete much more data, not to mention searching for that.

So please just leave this site without deleting your account - and who knows, maybe you will come back one day


so first i'd like to say that this is different than deleting the accounts, and would use more work and time to accomplish. but will be very rewarding to the pokeheroes community.

what i suggest is that all the permanently locked accounts have their pokemon released, unless there is a way to remotely do this, then it will require more work for the mods if its even possible, they would need to bypass the lock and log into said accounts and release them manually, i understand this is a lot to ask and i apologize beforehand.

when you look at the Pokedex it shows how many pokemon there are in the community of each species. however if a user has been locked out of the community for good then these numbers are artificially inflated.

i put forth the idea that these users are not just sleeping with their pokemon protected in their little pokeballs, but instead should be regarded like the owner of the charmander ash met in the first pokemon show. its owner abandoned it and left it to live in the wild.



and in the regards of the dex numbers, this would help to provide an accurate account for all the pokemon that arent inactive, for example, lets say User collects 5000 magicarp, and then User breaks the rules and becomes permanently banned, User inflated the numbers on magicarp by 1/4 the actual number because now there are 5000 magicarp that dont belong because their owner abandoned them. but to everyone else who looks at the pokedex it seems there are 20K magicarp actively running around in the community.



and in conclusion there are more pokemon accounted for than are presently in the community, so it would be very helpful and much appreciated if they could either be released or have them stricken from the pokedex numbers in some way.
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AoTora
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Posted: Sat, 21/11/2015 10:42 (8 Years ago)
I believe that I saw something similar being suggested before- but the locked account's mons should be redeistributed among other users- And I believe that Riako said somewhere that if someone is perma banned it doesn't mean that they won't return one day- basically they can be unbanned- I forgot where I saw that but if I manage to find it I will post the link/quote.
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Space-Cookie
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Posted: Sat, 21/11/2015 10:46 (8 Years ago)
This would work, but there's a flaw.

Shiny Pokemon? If they got deleted, it would be a horrible waste.

Other than that, support!
Sirblockcraft
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Posted: Sat, 21/11/2015 10:47 (8 Years ago)
Hmm, Instead of releasing them, why not make it so banned players have any pokemon they have not count towards the dex count but they are re-added if they are unbanned?
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Posted: Sat, 21/11/2015 10:58 (8 Years ago)
Why this doesn't work:

Releasing/Trading Pokémon:
First of all, I'd like to repeat and clarify what I've told many users before already:
Pokémon of banned trainers will not be released or traded to other user accounts.
Very simple reason: What if the ban turns out to be a false alarm? There have been (a few) cases where the user was able to prove their innocence after a few days/weeks and the (perm.) ban was lifted.
Now how would you react if your account was banned for unfair reasons and then you also find out that your Pokémon were released/traded?

Not including these Pokémon in the Sitewide-Frequency-Counter:
The reason why this doesn't work (properly) is a coding reason.
Let me (vaguely) explain how this counter works: When you click on a PokéDex Entry (let's say Pikachu #25), the server opens the list of all Pokémon, which are sorted by PokéDex Number. Now all the server has to do is find the first Pokémon with the PokéDex Number 25. Now that's fairly easy; imagine you look at a list of sorted numbers. Even when there are a million of numbers, you will easy find the number "25", because they're sorted.
Then the server starts counting: 1, 2, 3, 4, ... 1023, 1024... oops! Now the Number #26 appeared - I'm finished here! The result is 1024 Pikachu.
You can imagine that this works very fast.

But what if the server has to exclude all Pokémon from banned accounts now?
Server opens the Pokémon list, searches for first PokéDex Number 25, and then starts counting:
1 - who's the trainer of this? - okay, the trainer is Riako. - Is Riako banned? - Looks up if Riako is banned. - Okay, he's not banned.
2 - okay, the trainer is Troller1996. - Is Troller1996 banned? - Looks up if Troller1996 is banned. - Okay, he is banned - So I'm back to "1" now.
[etc.]

Can you imagine how slow that would be?
keife191
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Posted: Sat, 21/11/2015 11:08 (8 Years ago)
alright, that does make sense, i just wish there was a way to easily fix the numbers so you could know how many pokemon are active, i guess thats just a pipe dream though
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Riako
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Posted: Sat, 21/11/2015 11:12 (8 Years ago)
Well, but also why is your suggestion only about banned accounts? Wouldn't it make more sense to exclude all inactive accounts as well?
keife191
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Posted: Sat, 21/11/2015 11:16 (8 Years ago)
well, i had thought if you were going to implement the releasing the pokemon then it would only be fair for accounts that could never be active again. but if you would implement a way to discount the numbers from inactive pokemon then it would probably work for all inactive accounts, but then if the accounts became active again it would jumble the numbers up, so thered have to be a cutoff point for inactives, like if an account is inactive for a year then its pokemon get removed from the pokedex counter, or something like that
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