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DragonisPrime
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Posted: Tue, 14/10/2014 00:26 (9 Years ago)
This is the forum for my cause, SayNo2Shinies

Why do people care about shinies? So what they're a different colour than other pokemon. When there's a human who has different coloured hair or skin than us, we make fun of them. For this reason, I am not going to hunt shinies. Instead, I will breed many of the same Pokemon and put them on the Auction House to spread the word of my cause, #SayNo2Shinies. Put this hashtag in your feed if you are with me in this matter because, by saying no to shinies, you are saying no to inequality.

Please, join, and help me end inequality
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Posted: Tue, 14/10/2014 00:28 (9 Years ago)
Why exactly do you say no to shinnies? Is there a reason you dont like them?

Maybe you can put up more information about your "cause"?

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DragonisPrime
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Posted: Tue, 14/10/2014 00:32 (9 Years ago)
You can show extreme devotion to this cause (Not mandatory, but appreciated) by taking Pokemon from your current/latest shiny hunt, stop your hunt, nickname them SayNo2Shinies, and put them on the Auction House
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Posted: Wed, 15/10/2014 09:20 (9 Years ago)
won't happen i guess...in my opinion you can't compare different colored creatures in a game with deep topics like human racism...liking a color better than another doesn't make you a racist...

clicking only the shinies on site or only liking people, who hatched a shiny would be an issue...also pokemon got different natures and some people like a bold nature better than others, so there still would be inequality. individualism isn't a bad thing for me...

shinies make the game interesting, they are a kind of special award you have to work for, earning them by putting effort in interacting, breeding or other tasks.




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Posted: Wed, 15/10/2014 09:32 (9 Years ago)
@Oktopi
Agreed.
Many animals have different colors, and what am I saying, Pokemon aren't animals, they're monsters. And why exactly say no to shinies? Shinies are simply fantastic, because they are rare and special in a way.
And you can't compare topics like different colored animals to human racism, because they're 2 different things.
Anyway in my case I love shinies, you can do whatever you want, you may stop 25k people but you won't stop over 2 million people.

Anyways, shinies are like awards for your hard work, and if you want to say NO to awards, kudos to you, my friend!
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Posted: Wed, 15/10/2014 10:38 (9 Years ago)
True, appearance shouldn't matter, but Shinies are hard to get, so they will inherently be valuable whether people want them to be or not. If you start making people shun them, that's equally bad. You're not bringing equality - you're just making people hate Pokémon based on their colors, and... arguing that if we hate people because they have different skin colors, we should hate Pokémon with different skin colors, too?
I seriously HOPE I'm misinterpreting your post, but assuming I'm not, you have it all backwards. We SHOULDN'T hate people with different skin colors, and we certainly shouldn't use that as an argument FOR hating other things that are different, too.
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Posted: Wed, 15/10/2014 14:36 (9 Years ago)
much like people celebrate the beauty and diversity of skin colors, many people enjoy the diversity of having pokemon that are different colors as well

i'd say by saying no to shinies, you're saying no to diversity, if anything :p


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Posted: Wed, 15/10/2014 14:39 (9 Years ago)
What if there were NO SHINIES?
How you would get Unobtainable Legendaries in X/Y Or any other Pokemon game?

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Posted: Wed, 15/10/2014 14:53 (9 Years ago)
To be precise, what you do IS basically racism because you say "These Pokemon look different, I don't want them." So how are you any better than people who don't like foreigners?
Shinies were added to Pokemon to make them more valuable because of their rarities (like Albinos). It adds an extra challenge to completing your PokeDex (which is the actual goal of Pokemon)

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Posted: Wed, 15/10/2014 15:12 (9 Years ago)
Can I say one thing? #SayYesToShinies! So what if people like you don't like them? I am one of those ppl who like them and treasure them. I have more legenarys then shinies on Y. I have about 45 Legensaryes and about 7 Shinies. Big Difference. #SayYesToShinies!
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Posted: Wed, 15/10/2014 20:01 (9 Years ago)
Wait... so you're saying no to human racism, with shiny racism?
wuht ._.
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Posted: Wed, 15/10/2014 20:05 (9 Years ago)
@SaneviRae; Exactly lol

Like mirej said, you're showing racism. Shinies are supposed to be rare, and what you're basically saying is #SayNoToRareColors. It's like saying, "I used a white crayon!" And another person says, "Haha, you said white, racist!"

Edit: I think even some Pokémon have different skin patterns/colors.
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Posted: Wed, 15/10/2014 23:36 (9 Years ago)
Um, breeding a pokemon a lot will only diminish it's rarity making people care about the normal forms of pokemon even less.

Shinies are liked because they're rare and often times look better than regular forms. It's the same reason why people prefer gold to rocks. Because rocks are so much more common.
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Posted: Thu, 16/10/2014 00:11 (9 Years ago)
For everyone giving me crap over this.

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AutumnStar
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Posted: Thu, 16/10/2014 00:15 (9 Years ago)
calm down - no one is giving you crap over anything, this is in the general discussion forum after all, and everyone is stating their opinion in a respectful and civil manner


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Posted: Thu, 16/10/2014 09:58 (9 Years ago)
Personally, I'm with everyone else who has posted in confusion. How is this supposed to promote equality?

"You have a different hair-color than me, thus I don't like you"
"You have a different fur-color from normals, thus I don't like you"

And what about Pokémon with forms? Do you dislike them as well? They're different, and liking one form and disliking the others is pretty much the same thing as refusing to like shinies over this matter.

And, as it's already been said, it's not something that can just be simply related with racism or bigotry of our own kind, as your original post tries to state. I actually don't notice the color of skin of those around me, so it doesn't bother me, but I love certain shinies due to their colors. I also love some pokemon more than others based on color and design. And I like some megas while not liking others.

Does this mean that I'm racist? Maybe in-game, but not in real life. Should I shun something I hatch solely because it's a color I'm not a fan of? That sounds like what you're trying to stop in our world through a rather contradicting manner.

So, if we go by what you're saying, only a specific range fits what's correct, normal, and what should be accepted. Forgive this reference, but you do realize that's what Hitler was trying to do, right? (The perfect race of people by excluding every one else)

So, in all honesty, what you are doing doesn't make sense. Clarification, explanation, and the real reason behind it would be absolutely wonderful to see, that way we get the full story instead of just pieces that don't make any sense.
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Posted: Thu, 16/10/2014 11:51 (9 Years ago)
I actually missed the point about racism. This doesn't compare to that simply because of the ratio they're found at. Races are not extremely rare. Now, there are certain cultures --indigenous cultures-- dying out, but even that doesn't count as it's own race.

To even suggest that a certain race of people might be extremely rare, as compared to pokemon, is pretty offensive. There's no race that is so rare that there's only 1 in 8,000+ comparing to other races. Not in the current time period, at least.

Also, even if said race were to exist, you're basically saying you wouldn't like them simply because they're rare and different.
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Posted: Fri, 17/10/2014 05:33 (9 Years ago)
I understand that you wish for racial inequality to stop, as per Martin Luther King, Jr.'s wish, but that is no excuse for this to carry over from humans to Pokémon. Pokémon was created as a game for children, and racial inequality...it delves into the world of politics, a place where people are assassinated and power-hungry bigots rule by money, a place where no kids should be. I understand that you don't wish for anybody to be ostracized, but there is absolutely no need for this to 'leak' into our daily enjoyment, a past time we use to attempt to get away from the stress of the real world. I don't want anybody to be angry over this, as this is where we try to share our opinions, so what I suggest is to try not to anger anyone and remain where we are-just call a cease-fire. The shiny hunters hunt their shinies and you can continue to breed your Pokémon and nick-name them.

I'm sorry for the long rant...but I am just trying to express my opinion.. sorry, guys...
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Posted: Fri, 17/10/2014 06:50 (9 Years ago)
I followed this topic for a while and I really have to say, there's a lot about your first post that bothers me.
QuoteWhen there's a human who has different coloured hair or skin than us, we make fun of them.

Really? I don't. Do you? That's precisely what racism is. So are you basically saying "I am a racist in real life so I want to be on Pokeheroes too!"?
Also what Mirej said.
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