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IV & Breeding suggestions

Forum-Index Suggestions Rejected IV & Breeding suggestions
Mrinja
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Posted: Sat, 11/08/2018 22:38 (5 Years ago)
second suggestion is here which focuses on public battles. (kinda like GTS but for battle requests)

So it hit me, that not many people have a straight idea about what ivs and evs are and I think a great way to start of making battling more relevant to this site would be to add a way to show their Iv's. Under the speed stat I think there should be a way to show their Iv's with a possible labeling of -

31HP/31ATK/31DEF/31SATK/31SDEF/31SPD

EVs I think should be more hidden (they should be kept how they are already) and only really matter until your pokemon are level 100, but IV's definitely should be shown so people have a way to breed easier.



Now onto the breeding suggestions:

Natures will be pass down pure randomly like they've always will on default. 3 Iv's will pass down from either parent (50-50 which parent passes down their IV, this happens 3 times) on default. The items below will do their usual in-game effects with an add-on.


-When the everstone is holded by a pokemon in the daycare, their nature will pass down 100%. If both parents are holding one its a 50-50 which parents passes down their nature just like species passing in PH.
-When holded by a pokemon, the parent holding this item will always pass down their IV. the other 2/4 stats are still random but one of them will always be passed down corresponding to the item (HP-Weight,Attack-Bracer,Defense-Belt,Special Attack-Lens, Special Defense-Band, Speed-Anklet)
-Pokemon holding this receive double EVs in-game (interacting,salon,vitamins,etc). Halves your speed in battle.
(Cost 60 BP in battle shop, Macho Brace)
-When holded by a pokemon, 5 IVs except for 3 will be passed down. In other words, both pokemon holding this will have the same effect as if one of them was holding it.
(Cost 60 BP in battle shop, Destiny Knot)


-Bottle Caps can be used in the salon to give your Pokemon hyper training or, in this case, a hyper massage. This item can be bought in the battle shop or can randomly be traded for a bottled message or a black mystery box making it very rare to get in Emera Beach.
(Cost 200 BP in battle shop, Bottle Cap)
-Gold Bottle Caps can be used in the salon to give a super hyper massage. This item is very rare and can only be gotten by trading 6 Bottle Caps in Emera Beach rarely or by buying it in the battle shop.
(Cost 1000 BP in battle shop, Gold Bottle Cap)


(there will be 2 more massages making there will be 8 in total, this is so pokemon that are received as gifts such
as alolan pokemon can be made perfect, but its relatively pricy)
New massages in the salon:

Treatment:Hyper Massage
(possible) Description:A special massage that can only be used on Pokemon level 100 or higher. It requires a special technique to max out one stat of a Pokemon to their full genetic potential. Due to this, only elusive bottle caps are accepted as currency.
Price:0 PD
Time:30 minutes


Requirements:Level 100 or higher, Stat is picked randomly if it isn't at 31 IVs already, If all IVs are maxed to 31 you are unable to do this, if pokemon was massaged that day already you are unable to do this.

Treatment:Super Hyper Massage
(possible) Description:A special massage that can only be used on Pokemon level 100 or higher. It requires a special technique to max out all stats of a Pokemon to their full genetic potential. This technique requires a lot of effort and I only require an exotic gold bottle cap for it.
Price:0 PD
Time:3 hours


Requirements:Level 100 or higher, If all IVs are maxed to 31 you are unable to do this, if pokemon was massaged that day already you are unable to do this.




Also, I think upon winning a long battle when battling the amount of BP you should get should be 12 except for 9 as 9BP isn't a lot comparing to how much time you used for the battle, it could make people want to battle more, or things like rare candies prices can be buffed.



This is an add-on to the suggestion, since IVs will be public shown, base stats should be too. Right now we clearly don't know if the event Pokémon have different base stats like the 8 harvest sprites. We're just assuming they are all the same base stats as victini spoiler alert, I've ruined your childhood.. You can see how this is a problem. If we are able to see the base stats and IVs, we'll be able to accurately show much EVs a Pokémon has which will be much more helpful.





Sum it up:
IVs should be shown on hatched pokemon
4 new battle shop items (30 items now)
2 new massages (8 massages now)
More item trades in the emera beach
Breeding additions
Maxium amount of BP should be 12 except for 9
Base stats should be shown in more-info in the Pokedex

Hope its not a lot to code but it can drastically make perfect pokemon easier as right now its almost impossible (literally (1/31)*(1/31)*(1/31)*(1/31)*(1/31)*(1/31)*(1/25)) much rarer than shinies and shiny-megas in general.

Also if you aren't affected by it/wouldn't use it, you gotta realize there are competitive people here still and this can be a great help when they make their teams as not everyone just hunts for shinies and megas.

Edit:If IVs aren't inherited they are 0-31 on default.

Edit 2:Added bottle caps and their respective massages


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Mrinja
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Posted: Sun, 19/08/2018 00:47 (5 Years ago)
Bump :p

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Mrinja
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Posted: Wed, 22/08/2018 03:57 (5 Years ago)
Bump, added bottle caps and hyper massages so pokemon that were received like alolan marowak and retro pokemon are able to max their IVs since you can't breed them.

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Posted: Wed, 22/08/2018 05:06 (5 Years ago)
While some people may like this... I don't.

I see PokeHeroes more as a collecting game, and the battle part as just an optional minigame. I feel something like this could change that focus too much from those values.

People would become focused on the IVs and not on the pokemon. Then anything without those perfect IV stats would be seen as worthless. So any one doing shiny hunts had better be using perfect IV parents, and those items to pass down those perfect IV stats. Because if they don't, any shiny they breed is worthless too.

I am a mobile only player.
Mrinja
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Posted: Wed, 22/08/2018 13:46 (5 Years ago)
Kazeodori, as you may know these features are already in-game. I see what you mean, if you're are able to do this and breed perfect pokes why not always do it? I, in fact, don't really care about using pokemon already that don't even have the right nature (adamant,modest,etc). It'll purely just make it easier for people to battle and put a little more emphasis on it here since its a great feature and Riako worked really hard on it. The only time I would think a shiny would be worthless would be if it had a bad nature, otherwise you can just use vitamins and bottle caps on it, so it won't necessarily be the next "big" thing as shiny megas will always be the rarest pokemon here.


Right now its:
Regular (almost always)>Shiny (less than 3%)>Mega (less than 3%)>Perfect Regular (less than 0.5%)>Perfect Shiny (less than 0.25%)>Perfect Mega (less than 0.25%)>Perfect Shiny Mega (less than 0.25%)

And perfect shiny megas are the rarest pokemon in-game, this just makes the rarest pokemon on site "Perfect Shiny Mega" a little bit down a slot and makes breeding EVs, IVs, and Natures more controllable, they are still the rarest because of natures, but if you just get a parent pokemon with everstone its practically always going to be perfect like how it should be. If this were to happen they would just switch around a little:

Regular>Perfect Regular>Shiny>Perfect Shiny>Mega>Perfect Mega>Shiny Mega>Perfect Shiny Mega

(currently means the rarest pokemon on site would be a perfect female shiny mega lucario-sensei)

(also, thanks for commenting Xd, this is about over a week old now and I was wondering why people were down voting it but no one was commenting, I see this is the major problem then)


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Posted: Fri, 24/08/2018 14:50 (5 Years ago)
Its been two days, bumping again.

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Mrinja
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Posted: Tue, 28/08/2018 00:18 (5 Years ago)
Been two days, bumping again. also how is this simplifying breeding in an unnecessary way

Going to edit, when IVs are passed down just like in the original. It isn't truly 50-50, one parents can pass all 3 stats and sometimes one passes 1 and the other passes 2,etc.


Here is an example of how it would look alike:

Two Swannas breed, the best nature you would want is timid and one of them magically ends up being a timid one. You give this one an everstone. The female swanna with the everstone Iv's are 21/12/28/4/0/17, the other swanna, the male one is, 11/2/0/25/30/2. You don't want to just get one perfect stat, you want all of them to have perfect stats so you cash your BP for a destiny knot and give it to the male swanna. Since they're both swannas the chance of Ducklett hatchling will be a 100% and the chance of timid is now 100%. Meaning, its practically perfect if you end up giving it a golden bottle cap and lots of vitamins, but your on a budget so you're going in the natural route.

There is a 1/32 chance of getting a perfect 31, it is 1/32 because 0 is an option in this formula. You end up getting a perfect HP female ducklett at 10 eggs with a stat of 31/12/0/30/17, the 5 IVs are passed down from both parents. You end up keep on going and get a male ducklett with perfect SPD 11/2/0/25/30/31. You evolve them, do the same thing and breed them now.

The chain of generations keeps on going and now you've gotten a 31/31/31/31/31/28 female swanna. and a 31/31/31/31/27/31 male swanna. You tried one more time and were lucky! There was a 3.25% that this would happen the first try, but it did! The egg hatched and a timid male ducklett with IVs of 31/31/31/31/31/31 took 3 IVs from their dad and 2 Ivs from their mom and their last IV turned into a 31.

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Posted: Thu, 30/08/2018 21:01 (5 Years ago)
Bump

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Mrinja
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Posted: Mon, 03/09/2018 03:36 (5 Years ago)
bumping

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Mrinja
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Posted: Sat, 08/09/2018 03:23 (5 Years ago)
bumping

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Mrinja
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Posted: Tue, 11/09/2018 22:00 (5 Years ago)
bumpity boo, de bump, de bump, of all the bumps. This is the most bumpiest 3 day bump. bumpity boo, de bump, de bump, of all the bumps. This is the bump....

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Posted: Sat, 15/09/2018 16:39 (5 Years ago)
This is. THE 3 DAY BUMP

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Posted: Sun, 23/09/2018 03:20 (5 Years ago)
another bump

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Posted: Sun, 30/09/2018 13:27 (5 Years ago)
another bump

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Mrinja
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Posted: Tue, 02/10/2018 22:50 (5 Years ago)
another bump

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Posted: Fri, 05/10/2018 20:48 (5 Years ago)
another bump

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Mrinja
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Posted: Thu, 11/10/2018 01:37 (5 Years ago)
another bump

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Posted: Thu, 11/10/2018 01:42 (5 Years ago)
This just makes the rarest pokemon on site "Perfect Shiny Mega
No it’s a ledgendary event perfect shiny mega certain gender certain ability
:|
Why did I write this
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Posted: Thu, 11/10/2018 03:00 (5 Years ago)
It always was the rarest, I haven't ever seen a perfect shiny mega on this site as they always fall short. This just makes it achievable.

People often think the PH sprites are bland. Do they shade? Well, yes they do. You'll be surprised how much care is taken for these sprites.




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Posted: Thu, 18/10/2018 23:09 (5 Years ago)
another bump

People often think the PH sprites are bland. Do they shade? Well, yes they do. You'll be surprised how much care is taken for these sprites.