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So, I'm suggesting a medal in medal rally for just basic interacting, berry feeding is still allowed but it shouldn't give more points. The only reason I think why the medal in medal rally is for berries is because it might be the same people over and over is what I hear people saying (which that could happen to anything on the rally). Though making it for berries made it limited to most users, because 1. They might not have enough PD 2. They are out of stock often, especially in the berry battle. So I'm suggesting adding it as medal so there is 5 medals. I just don't think the berry medal is an actual competition, you could have even planned this out. Like look at this:
You see how one user can be in front easily, while everyone else just gives up? I just don't see why some people should just give up feeding berries because someone is a greater trader than them.

Why am I suggesting?
1.It's simple, let's people be not be as stressed out when doing other things instead of interacting.
2.Gives a more variety of users a chance. Meaning it is less biased/for a certain group of people. Since this whole site is interacting after all.
3.Which starts number 3, if this was made. It would probably be making interacting to users a lot better. So you don't just get a lot of interactions from event and x2 days.
4 (edit): Gives more hope into people, because all of the current medal rallies can relate which nuggets double ehp,exp,items to sell for PD. This one is just pure kindness. So I wouldn't see no-paying members complain about this.

Good cons that I found (I don't snip, I know people hate it when I do that in debates DX):
Nessy:
Giarafarig:


Also about that auto-clickers argument for those people that will use that in the future. If you haven't notice, there is a thing that says,"Are you a human being." Yeah it's not only for berry-feeding. So can you use something else to argue if you were to use it?

(I think I got everything for a suggestion, if someone's say it's not well explained I will slap you with a fish)

This has been edited, I think making it a new medal except of a replacement is a better idea :D.

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No support-

Honestly I'm pretty sure the main reason berry feeding is the medal, instead of basic interacting, is because it requires more of an investment (running out of berries and buying them, or growing them, etc). Basic interacting is easy, so the medal should be more rewarding,

Plus, it'd screw up with autoclickers-- there's gotta be at least one every month, and they're still a user, so they'd be getting the medal, not users who actually try.

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But toma, if you're getting an auto clicker. You're probably harvesting PD from interacting. Which you could use for the medal rally. So to be honest, I think they are both as bad when it comes to autoclickers, or you could even say this berry medal is even worse, because they take all my berries for my miltank farm.

Also, what do you mean it's not as rewarding? I find training, hatching, spamming the play button all as simple as interacting?

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The problem with making it interacting is you're making it less accessible

In the last 30 days, the top three people in the interactions are all at over 2 million interactions, meaning that in a medal rally, you need to make at least 1 million to have a chance.

For the berry medal, since you have to buy the berries (growing them won't work because you can't use those ones while interacting), interact with storage boxes for speed, and make a conscious decision to participate, you have a higher chance of getting on the rally with fewer interactions, much better for people with slow internet or school.

I've gotten a gold medal in the berry rally before, a few years back, and for that, I made about 10-15k interactions, which was doable when i had college classes.

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Changing this would encourage autoclicking, since if you want a medal, you have to get a good million interactions every month. As is, it's more effort to do an autoclicker because if you run out of a particular berry flavor, you have to start from scratch.

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I don't think pd could ever be a problem? ^^ If they're interacting a lot, that generates more than enough money to buy the berries needed. Also, just like the level medal rally, there's usually a fair amount of planning involved - nobody just jumps in and starts. They usually stock up on berries over quite a while which means stocks should affect them too much.

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@Nessy, where are you getting these numbers. That's the total interactions? (Also, it's the last 15 days cause the medal rally but thats not possible unless you're keeping track when the month starts)

@Silverstair, yeah thats the problem. You could just literally stock up on berries because you have been planning it out because you have a lot of PD.

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No support, I'm agreeing on what's been said by Nessy so far, it'll just encourage people to cheat in the game due to not being able to keep up with the top users who do click close to 2m interactions a month, it would be disheartening as hell, and it'd literally /always/ be the same 3/4 people up there.

Although just to add on to this, a compromise I'd be okay with was if the ranklist would add in "most interactions for one day" that way, you'd be able to plan, like you would with saving up for berries, and chose an appropriate day that would work best with your own schedule, to try and get into the top 10.
No trophies rewarded, but it'd say it's much better working off of that, then hoping to come up with 2m interactions over the course of a month

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The ranklist has "Most interactions (past 30 days)"
That number is 2 million +

So for 15 days, I divided both 2 million and 30 by 2 and got 1 million per 15 days as an approximation

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Autoclickers don't work well with interacting due to the "Are you a human being" thing that Riako made. So why would you need 1 million interactions, it's not like one person got 500k?

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Autoclickers don't work well with interacting due to the "Are you a human being" thing that Riako made.

I don't see the point of this argument? The "Are you a human?" will also appear when you feed berries.
Feeding berries is basically the same as interacting, the difference is that you choose to "interact" it with a berry instead of warming/training.

It is possible for people to get 500k (and even more - 1 mil) interactions within 15 days. If someone made 1 mil interactions in 15 days, then it is very likely that many other will be able to do 500k interactions in 15 days.
500k in 15 days is "only" around 30k-35k interactions per day. People with a lot of free time will easily be able to interact this much.

Regarding the actual suggestion;
I agree with Nessy, they got good points
So no support

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No support it would be to easy for auto clickers

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@Maniac, thats my point. Everyone is saying this would be a bad idea because of autoclickers, but I mean both of them are safe? And shouldn't those people that want to interact for 30k every day, get the medals (I mean puff,thats like impossible)? Instead of some person that gets a ton of PD and just wants to waste it on berries?

@Nessy, why would you need 1 million if thats the interaction total to have a chance? Your logic makes no sense. It's probably just me, but can you elaborate on that. It's in the medal rally, its not like there is one person thats going to get 1 million interactions. And if there is, they should wholeheartedly deserve that medal for helping the community in such a way.

Edit:Nessy, you were talking about the ranklist right? Well what's so wrong with that? This idea can go to anything in the medal rally, game center, best shiny hunters, known for being a well known person such as Riako, you're acting like one person would want to make that much interactions every month. It's the same idea with the berry battle, a person can cream everyone easily. But they usually relax the next day since they did everything they could for that day.

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You're not listening to me, in 15 days, the top 3 people (the ones winning the medals) would all be getting 1 million interactions, since in 30 days they are getting 2 million. So yes, to win the medal, you don't need 500k interactions, you need 1 million.

And as a bonus, watch it from month to month, the top three people rarely change

The way it is, with the berry interactions, you have to make a decision to participate, you have to stock up on berries, and you actually have a chance of winning?

Removing that, you'd have to get over 60k interactions a day to have a shot at the top 3 (because as I stated multiple times, you'd need 1 million in 15 days, and that comes out to 66666 interactions a day), which is already a good number of interactions to WIN the berry rally, since on average you just need over 50k berry interactions to get a medal

I still don't see the bonus to this one, or where it would discourage autoclicking. Yeah, the are you a robot thing, but many autoclickers can toggle the clicking off, click the "i'm not a robot" and go right back to autoclicking.

The fact about the berry rally is it is DOABLE, by anyone. If it was just an interaction rally, it wouldn't be doable. So you have to buy something to get in? Well, the berries also give bonus exp to the pokemon you interact with, and this encourages people to make the decision to feed pokemon with berries.

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The shop restocks at 6 am and 6 pm server time, and right now (at 1 am server time) there's a wide selection of berries. Only one berry is out of stock. If you want to participate in the rally, pay attention to shop times and stock up on berries. You could even have your friends gift you their extra berries.

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But you shouldn't need to make a decisions of participating, shouldn't the medal rally be all the items that you got from the current medal rally. What's happening right now isn't fair to the rally laws. How would auto-clickers toggle it off. If they could, they could just give themselves infinite berries if they are able to go in the code. The berry rally isn't doable by everyone, and interacting rallies would be doable for everyone since it's doable. In fact, just because berries encourage berry feeding. Doesn't mean they will keep doing that. After all, just 100 berries costs 4000PD. Which many users can't afford. Oh and pay to win, ha. That's doable by everyone is it.

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RL money =/= PH money

this game isn't pay to win, it never has been. Berries are literally one of the cheapest things to buy on here, making 4kPD to buy a mere 100 berries is not "pay to win", "pay to win" is making it so users cannot progress in a game/website unless they literally give up real life money to purchase items to aid them.
you can make about 5k per 2 hour rumble mission (once your rumble mission maps are a decent level), every 2 hours, within a 12 hour span, that's an easy 30k for doing absolutely nothing. you get boxes and keys to sell for PD, which rumblers bring back all the time. You can click, which is the main core function of this website, to get an easily amount of PD for berries, to save up for them.
A rally is saving up for it, a rally is preparing for it, a rally is dedicating your time for one certain aspect of it, in the hopes to win it. It is absolutely fair the way it's working right now, there is no need to add a medal for clicking when it will always be between the same few people. THAT is unfair.

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@Girafarig I meant pay (PD) to win (Berry clicking) for the medal rally XD. A medal is not preparing, and it has never been like that. You can't prepare hatched eggs for the rally, you can't prepare strong pokemon for the rally, you can't prepare coin flip chance. Well then don't let the same people get on top? It's unfair that people that don't try can easily get to the top easily. And know 5000 for 2 hours is not a decent level, you can literally only get 200PD from a level 25 rumble unless you're lucky.

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Well yeah, you kinda can lol
You save up your gems, for certain eggs, (magikarp, weedle being the easiest) for example, you put aside a day to just interact to lab hunt, to hatch those eggs. (wouldn't this also be pay to win, because you're always buying your gems, if it's a strict gem hunt?)

You save up for rare candies, make sure to click a lot, to ensure your pokemon gains the levels it needs, you still put aside your time to dedicate a few hours to make sure your pokemon stays in the lead. (you're buying your rare candies? more pay to win?)

you put aside a day to just flip a coin, as boring as that is

you're always preparing for something, you don't just accidentally get a medal, you work for it?

I feel like this is getting incredibly off track from your original suggestion now though lol, so i'm sorry for that x)

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@Girafarig
Just imagining people getting weedles for this contest what trolls XD. But you can't/shouldn't prepare before, you can plan out things. But the medal rally shouldn't be like you bought a bunch of PD to trade for the berries to win, or other items. Or else Riako needs some work to do XD. But don't you think rare candies, gems are far more valuable? I just don't see anybody wasting them instead of using them for rowan's quests and such.

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You can prepare for all the other medal rally things though

For the level one - most people prepare some prizes, and run a hashtag contest for feeding their pokemon, or buy up rare candies

For the eggs - you should have the flute in your party so eggs hatch faster, you shouldn't be hunting anything for 15 days, and you should probably do plenty of interaction trades with other people

Coinflip - the easiest to enter, but you need a good base of game chips in case you have a losing streak, you should set aside some time for clicking

You still need to prepare for all the rallies. Someone with 100gc right now probably doesn't have a chance of winning the coin flip unless they get really lucky, and someone who isn't willing to interact back or at all won't win the egg hatching or the level rallies.

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And this is my last time explaining this to you

If you're making the 60k interactions a day necessary to win an interaction rally? You definitely have enough pd to buy berries for the berry rally.

You're claiming interactions are easier, when they truly are NOT. My average clicking speed is 2 clicks per minute, I have a wonky mouse and internet. To get 60k + interactions a day, I need to set aside nine hours a day, impossible with school or a job

On the other hand, for the berry rally, in order to win, I'd only need to interact for about an HOUR each day, or just do 500+ every hour for 3-4 hours (for the dream points)

Which of those seems more attainable? So you have to spend PD. So what? with all the interaction you say you're able to do "easily", 4k pd should only take you about 3 minutes, and that's at MY speed.

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For the eggs - you should have the flute in your party so eggs hatch faster, you shouldn't be hunting anything for 15 days.

Nessy read suggestions number 4. In fact, interacting seems more attainable. I just see what your saying to be biased because of school (though I hear college usually has a lot of days off, I'm 13 whatever). Though maybe I think it should just be an extra medal except for a replacement, you agree? I mean all 4 medals are intertwined with interacting/clicking anyway.

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