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We all know that cash is hard to find on here right? So how great would it be to get a refund of our cash spent on an auction the moment we are outbid??? I am legit sick of not being able to bid on something because i was outbid on a different auction and don't have the cash to put on a different one! Why should we have to wait until the auction is over to get cash we put in back?:/

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The moment someone is outbid on an auction, they should have the option to withdraw from the auction bidding or keep flooring it, but if you get outbid you should get your cash back after being outbid! if you don't have the money to keep going on an auction, you shouldn't have to wait until it ends to get your bid money back. that's all I'm saying. that little note that says you have been outbid on an auction should mean you get your cash back at that point!

Please edit your previous post, rather than make a new one.

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Suggested many times before.

here for example

I guess I'll just jump in here with my opinion~ (I don't support this)

1. Like Vasily said, the "retract your bid on an auction" suggestions have been made many, many, MANYYY times before, and all have been rejected.
2. I understand you're saying that the user should be able to get their money back after they are outbid, however, how is that fair to the user who had to pay more to outbid you? For example, let's say you bid 200k PD on a Pokemon. Somebody goes up to 250k PD, so you retract your own bid. That would be extremely unfair to the user who wasted 50k more PD than they had to because you made them spend more money on an auction than they needed to.
3. You get the money back anyway? I don't think too many people are going to start bidding, more so starting a bidding war on an auction that would last 1-2 more weeks. I would think most users get outbid in the final seconds of an auction being sniped, where you would get your money back afterward anyway.

(Sorry for the slashes, I didn't put them there but I can't really get rid of them...)

Lemon, I want you to know, I understand where you are coming from with this, but hear me out... This is an auction. I go to real life auctions and here's the thing. You are not condemned for not having enough money to keep bidding on an item when someone outbids you. Your money is still in your pocket when you are outbid. There are more than 2 people at auctions as well, and if someone wants to be a shill, or other known as the person that overbids on purpose to keep people from bidding then let it be that way but don't penalize the poor! there are going to be more people bidding on the pokemon other than 2 people so if someone overbids 50k then they should think first. its their problem not mine or yours when everyone else goes poor from them jumping the gun for say. If they lose 50k becauset everyone else backs down then its their fault. thats how all auctions should be here too. not a yard sale waiting game

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Here, i'll respond to your point in sections to refute hopefully everything you said, I hope you don't mind me responding to your paragraph with a list~

1. Nobody condemns you for "not having enough money"? I know how those auctions work, but PH auctions just don't work like that. You put the money out there, you don't say you're going to bid something then pay later.

2. Outbidding is the purpose of auctions. The people who have money and outbid you are not mean people, it's just the game. What I'm getting from this is that you don't like it when people have money, and follow the simple rules of the auction house.

3. What? Wait, so before somebody thinks about bidding on an auction (because they want that Pokemon), they need to think? Not many people on PH want to waste their money just bidding highly on auctions that were a low price before, with sniping being the only exception. However, when somebody sniped an auction the auction usually ends seconds afterward, and you get your money back quickly anyway.

4. This is kind of an overall thing, but why are you relating the Pokeheroes AH system to the real life one? PH's Auction House is nothing like real life auctions and it's ok that way. Nobody really said much before about it. The PH Auction House is a fair, "put up your money" sort of thing. You get it back anyway. PH's Auction House doesn't penalize the poor, the poor don't have the "right" to the Auction House or a Pokemon if they can't afford it. It's how everyone plays the game, it's not unfair.

4. The person can bid how they like. Nobody else will get "poor" from them, they'll get poor- then not be able to outbid anyone on auctions! People can't predict the future. It's not the outbidder's fault that they had to raise their bid so high to win before everyone else just withdraws their own bids. (Here's another example: An auction is at 10 PD. Over the hour, it climbs to 10k PD between 2 users. (No, it's not their fault it climbed so high. Maybe they went 10-100 PD at a time like many auctions go.) User B then runs out of money to bid and withdraws his money. Great. User A wasted 9k more than he needed to not because it was his fault, but because of User B withdrew his own bid. User B should have been ready to bid higher/waited for the auction to end before getting his money back.)

I hope I don't sound too rude in this because I really have nothing against you personally, I just wanted to respond to what you said~

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i totally understand this, but i dont mean actually having an option to withdrawl, i mean once you get outbid you should get all your money back so its easier to keep track of

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I think my point really still stands...OnO

Lets wait for some other users to comment on this, maybe?

While it's been suggested before - I support

All they are saying is this

Say there are 4 auctions for shiny bidoof [all expiring at the same time], and they bid 50k on one bidoof, leaving them with 45k

Someone else outbids on this bidoof, maybe going up to 60k

person a can then continue the bidding war for this one bidoof, or go purchase one of the other bidoofs with a minimum bid of 49k

But wait! they only have 45k in their account now because that 50k is in auction limbo until the auction ends, even if they can't afford it!

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The suggestion just means if you're outbid, your PD comes out of auction limbo and goes back to your account, so you can bid on a different pokemon if you desire. It's not like backing out of an art auction, and they're not suggesting that the person with the top bid can back out.

If you decide to outbid someone, that's on you, why should person A be penalized for person B outbidding them? They're not purposefully raising the auction price, and even if they were, person B shouldn't keep bidding if they don't feel the pokemon is worth that much.

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This has already been suggested and a link has been provided. Please continue the discussion over in the other thread.

//locked.

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