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Spade
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Posted: Thu, 09/04/2015 15:23 (9 Years ago)
I am suggesting to raise the cost of Vitamins, since people are abusing these vitamins.
I already saw many strange users who 'seemed like' battling himself after making a second account.
They did more than 100 battles in a few minutes, and earned BP by them. They sold vitamins that were bought by BP, and got quite rich if we consider that they joined before one week or a little more. By this way, those kinds of users will go up to a better place than users who work hard for pokedollars here in a honest way.
Also, even if the user doesn't have 'multi account', this problem still matters. Selling vitamins after numerous battles after battling their 'friends'(We don't even know if they battled a friend, or a multi account actually..) is a shortcut for being rich, which is actually quite unfair for users who do not even battle here.
I hope this suggestion gets implemented, so we can stop some users doing the thing I stated above.


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Posted: Thu, 09/04/2015 15:30 (9 Years ago)

Title: HI

there are not many users like that.There are a few of them which battle with people and collect the BP to earn money.Now this would modify the game and make vitamins useless.Also reducing there price is not a solution.they can still cheat by that.
For example:rarecandies can be brought and they can come in the rank list easily.
So this is an irrelevant point.
Also the moderaters are here to block multiple accounts.
Just that the people should report them.
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Posted: Thu, 09/04/2015 15:34 (9 Years ago)
@rtm2000
Decreasing the price 'helps' on preventing cheats, I didn't say this is a solution. Actually, there's no solution for this problem, except perfectly deleting the battle feature here.
Also, what do you mean by the point that says, 'It makes vitamins useless'? Vitamins aren't made to sell anyways, they are made to feed pokemons instead.
Also, actually I saw more than 5 suspicious users doing this in less than 10 days.
Yeah, but I guess you're quite right on rare candies. Maybe we should deal with this problem too.

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Posted: Thu, 09/04/2015 15:37 (9 Years ago)
Yep, i totally agree. This needs to be implemented.. Ive noticed a looooot of users (all of them from the same country) abusing this by making multiple accounts to earn a lot of PD without working for it like the rest of us. A good example is one user who is in the top 10 "Most Money" list atm but is banned.

A few of them told me already how they did it but its kinda pointless just keeping on reporting them when they can just make new accounts so easily.

Quote11:19see friend, M**********k is also my friend
he always keep telling everyone that he have 2 accounts

11:21Whats his other account called?

11:22he haded firstly L***** then it is now blocked but he have also made another
do you also want to report him

11:26Did you report him?

11:26ya
because he keeps reporting others

11:27You need to find out his other account :p

11:27do you want to report him

11:28No need to if you already done it

11:29yes now i am going to find his second account and also block that
because he keeps
reporting other
users and tries to make his account reach at heights
he is now trying to make so much of pokedollar
his friend shashikant is also there in the most pokedollar list

11:30Report M**********k and explain how he is making so much PD on your report

11:32ya i know he is making by battling so much with his other account

11:32(by making multiple accounts and battling to earn items for a lot PD)

11:34he is filling all the battle teams in both the accounts and which is wants to win he is keeping a very effective pokemon and then battling then he gets 25 battle points in the wining and 9 in losing
he then buys proteins and sells
he is able to make 200k in only 10 minutes

11:35Report him and say that
So the mods knows

11:40frankly telling i do haded 2 accounts
one this and other U******
the deccision of making two accounts were also made by M**********k
he keeps telling all users to make 2 accounts and then blocks the other users accounts by reporting


So basically.. they just make multiple accounts, battle for BP, buy Vitamins and sell those for a lot of cash

Decreasing the Item Shop "sell price" of items like Vitamins and Rare Candies will solve this abuse easily and make the game a lot fairer.

It sucks seeing experienced players with barely no cash working hard for PD while these new users just cheat their way into it
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Posted: Thu, 09/04/2015 15:42 (9 Years ago)
Let's just see this... There are many accounts like this, see his battle stats..
how can someone lose 608 battles in 9 hours?
100% multi account..
But, actually, there are many accounts like this in PH already.

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Posted: Thu, 09/04/2015 15:44 (9 Years ago)
Well, if that's the case, why can't you just report them? I mean, they're accounts are going to be locked anyway if they're found out. I use selling Vitamins that I've collected through battles from my Gym and the Basic Slot in the GGC thing of the Game Center to get some money sure but, I worked for them.

Or why decrease prices in the item shop? Why not increase the price of the BP in the Battle Shop? Rare Candies cost more BP than Vitamins but are worth less money in the Item Shop.

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Posted: Thu, 09/04/2015 15:47 (9 Years ago)
I guess it is a better solution, Furret, increasing the price of vitamins in battle shop, quite nice.
And yeah, we can report them. But how can we report all of them? Are we maybe spys who spy each other?
Even if we report those users, they will make accounts again, and again.
For example, there was a user named 'Mo***_C***' who made so many accounts using his phone, computer, and etc.
Actually, same thing can happen again and again.
We cannot simply stop them by just reporting.


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Posted: Thu, 09/04/2015 15:48 (9 Years ago)
Instead of lowering the sell price of the items in the shop, which hinders users who use the golden slots for PD, why not raise the BP it costs to buy these items?

I mean, multi-accounting is against the rules, and the moderators work diligently on finding and locking these accounts. But if you know that someone is a multi, and have enough reason to suspect it, report that account.

But having one group of people ruin it for those of us who work hard for what we have isn't worth it.

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Posted: Thu, 09/04/2015 15:50 (9 Years ago)
Yep, that is why I said Furret's solution was actually better than mine.
Raising BP costs, would be a better solution for this.
thanks to Furret for a better idea.

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Posted: Thu, 09/04/2015 15:52 (9 Years ago)
rare candies cost more but can be used to increase the pokemon lvl and come in the rank list.
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Posted: Thu, 09/04/2015 15:54 (9 Years ago)
We can actually solve that by increasing value of rare candies too, since you are saying 'Rare candies, rare candies' until now.


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Posted: Thu, 09/04/2015 15:54 (9 Years ago)
dont the spam filters work????
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Posted: Thu, 09/04/2015 15:55 (9 Years ago)
What do you mean by 'spam filters'?

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Posted: Thu, 09/04/2015 15:56 (9 Years ago)
those things that stop multiple accounts being created on an IP address.
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Posted: Thu, 09/04/2015 15:57 (9 Years ago)
That can actually be avoided when they use different computers and phones.


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Posted: Thu, 09/04/2015 16:01 (9 Years ago)
Either raising the BP costs

- or -

Making new items like "Vitamin X" and "Rare Candy X" where you can buy them from battle shop but they will have a very low "sell price" on the Item Shop. Obviously they work as the normal Vitamins and Rare Candy but they will be sold on the Battle Shop instead of the normal ones with normal "sell price" to stop these kind of system abuse.
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Posted: Thu, 09/04/2015 16:04 (9 Years ago)
That would be a good idea if it is implemented. But, making new features aren't related with us, Riako decides all update. If Riako wants to make it, it would be implemented, but I guess he wouldn't, these new items will take a long time to code, I guess.
I think raising the BP costs of Vitamins would be a better solution for now.

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Posted: Thu, 09/04/2015 16:11 (9 Years ago)
yep i agree

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Posted: Thu, 09/04/2015 17:19 (9 Years ago)
@rtm, what? The rules about Multi accounts are fine as it is.. all secondary accounts of a person are permanently locked and the main account I believe is given a warning.. I think? But after too many warnings then the main account can also be locked. I believe that's how it works.

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Posted: Thu, 09/04/2015 17:28 (9 Years ago)
Adding new items into the site actually wouldn't take a lot of coding, depending on how he has it organized in the system.

So if he added the new items, removed the normal version from the Battle shop, and replaced them with the new ones, it shouldn't take much time at all for him to do. And if the BP of the items is raised while the new items get a low PD value from the stores (20 like the berries, maybe? To encourage users to only buy items they are going to use) shouldn't take more than half an hour. (That's a very generous time. It might take less than five minutes depending on how he has it all organized)