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New Event System

Forum-Index Suggestions Implemented New Event System
Diana
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Posted: Sat, 24/05/2014 12:44 (10 Years ago)
Alright, I don't mind that. :3

(Thanks for bringing the amount we needed for the first one down, though)
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Posted: Sat, 24/05/2014 12:46 (10 Years ago)
I vote for this new system.
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Riako
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Posted: Sat, 24/05/2014 12:46 (10 Years ago)
Diana, just out of interest: Were you mostly feeding berries while you're on your iPad?
Since bringing the earned APs for a berry fed back to 2 would kind of solve this problem, too.
Users with slow internet (or on a mobile device) can easily interact with berries and members with faster internet on their computer can just mass-click on the "Train"-button.
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Posted: Sat, 24/05/2014 12:48 (10 Years ago)
I vote for the old one or some kinda mix of old and new one ~ Maybe 750 ap for interacting/same as it was on old one (1 and 2 AP) and maybe increasing the points you need on other parts so it's balanced and people do something beside interacting aswell? Either way I support the survey and thankyou for decreasing the amount needed for first event I am very grateful for that :3

(The problem with berries is that they take a lot of PD when you buy them though D: )
I am collecting spinda plooshies OwO
Toothie
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Posted: Sat, 24/05/2014 12:50 (10 Years ago)
Berries are quite cheap to be honest lol. Maybe not for some people, but you can obtain them from Rumbling, treasure box, mystery boxes and GGC. Lots of ways to obtain them.
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Diana
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Posted: Sat, 24/05/2014 12:53 (10 Years ago)
I do feed certain pokemon berries quite often (usually my pokemon, though), but now that you mention that, I could use that as a solution. Thanks for the idea, Riako.

(Honestly, I don't remember what I did while I was clicking for events on my iPad, probably did use berries, though)
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Riako
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Posted: Sat, 24/05/2014 12:58 (10 Years ago)
Okay, so I increased the AP earned for feeding a berry back to two :)
In my opinion this is a very easy and useful solution for mobile devices.

And like Toothless said, berries are quite cheap and easy to obtain. I'm feeding berries quite oftenly and I never have to buy any berries (Though I bought a few thousands some months ago :b Just buy them when there's a discount)
And when you have an Amulet Coin, you receive approximatelly 10 PD per berry fed.
Diana
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Posted: Sat, 24/05/2014 13:04 (10 Years ago)
Hm, one problem with feeding berries, though, is that it can take a while to 'load' the berry and I have fast internet. This is making clicking normally better. *le sigh*
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AoTora
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Posted: Sat, 24/05/2014 14:26 (10 Years ago)
2 AP seems like a good solution to me ^^ Now prepare yourselves because the store will be empty soon because I will steal all the berries there xD *takes the berries and runs away*
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Posted: Sat, 24/05/2014 15:49 (10 Years ago)
Berries give 1 AP per interaction. Which is not overly appealing to someone like me who doesn't have ALL the flavors in berries and who gets more eggs than berries.

I have stated in some of the threads with people complaining that I've NEVER maxed out all of the areas in the hour to get the event. This is with 500 interactions, with playing the game corner, with the social points, and with the other catagory.

The one now makes me even less likely to play the site in all the categories because the one that I would rather do first takes too long and distracts from what I want to do more.

The previous system would let me run my clicks through, then I could reply to my RPs, then I could play the game corner, then reply to my RPs. Then I could bid on auctions, then play the annoying Royal Tunnel and cash in my GGCs for possible useful items. Then I could reply to my RPs with 50 or more APs left towards my goal for the hour as it changes to the new hour.

It was a good system.

Now I spend all my time interacting for 750 APs, no break, a sore hand, and no incentive to play any of the other parts of the site for the Event. I won't participate in auctions now. I play the game corner only for the DPs and don't try to max it out, and it's just not worth it for me to actually put my effort into the event itself anymore. I'll get at least one event from working on getting DPs, probably. But there's no drive for me to work my tail off for the event itself now. If I get the event, it's a "Oh, okay, I got it." not a "OH YEAH! I FINALLY GOT IT AFTER SPENDING HOURS FIGHTING FOR IT!"

I know you say to give it time, but as the person who usually spends 4+ hours straight with a system to get the first of the event eggs on the site, then usually spends time after that to hatch the egg (forfeiting sleep during this time) the new system has messed up my system and has made it much much much worse on me. Especially since I prefer to click eggs to Pokémon for the sole fact that I know a lot of people shiny hunt and prefer their eggs to hatch quickly to getting everything that's already hatched clicked. :/

So users like me have to click 1,500 eggs per hour or feed 750 berries, which is half of what I can make if all I'm doing is interacting with no breaks, no lag, and no interaction with anyone else for even a single minute. So when I am trying to earn APs through all areas, I can't even get the FIVE HUNDRED aps that we USED to be able to get just from interacting, which hinders it as a while.

I admit I have just skimmed the thread. I've now seen this:
QuoteOkay, so I increased the AP earned for feeding a berry back to two


Great, if you're feeding Pokémon and not more focused on the eggs. So I'll accept this. But I preferred the old way on so many levels. (Mainly because of my timing for clicks being for eggs and the 1 AP for click thing. When I do that with berries, about half of the interactions aren't counted and I have to make them again because of the load times.)
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Posted: Sat, 24/05/2014 15:53 (10 Years ago)
I don't see how clicking and pressing a key will cause a sore hand. I make over 30,000 interactions a day and my hands are perfectly fine.
Nobody is forced to interact. There are other things you can do to get DP.
They're event Pokemon, and they're meant to be hard to obtain. Of course, Riako made it harder, but it's possible. And if you really want the event, then stop complaining and get interacting :D
I personally really like the new system, and I really hope Riako is planning to keep it.

And to point out. The main point about this game is to interact. Guys, you registered an account on an adoptable site. Obviously you will have to interact, and of course it wont be easy to obtain event Pokemon.

I will be quite honest. Lately, I have been loosing interest in the game, since there wasn't much to do. Now that the dream world shop has been released, and more reasons to interact, I have lots to do now.

People just seem to forget that the main purpose of this game is to interact, and people are complaining because they don't want to interact a lot. Like I said, nobody it forced to interact.
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Posted: Sat, 24/05/2014 16:12 (10 Years ago)
I gotta say seeing people complain about clicking on an adoptables site is a bit ridiculous like Toothless said. No one has to get sore hands/fingers/eyes by interacting. Don't break your bones or ruin your vision interacting, that's you torturing yourself and is not necessary to get an event.

Tell you what, I haven't clicked for the past couple events, but I have/had them. Why? Because I was shiny hunting and didn't want to break my chain. So what do I do? Buy events in auctions, ask my friends who are shiny hunting events to give me one or trade me one, check GTS you'll usually see one. So, don't let this change make it seem like getting an event will be impossible. You may not be the "first" to get one or the "first" to get a shiny, but you can get one.

If you want to click then do it in moderation, you don't need to fill up the bars at once. This isn't a huge problem, especially with all the work arounds to get the event Pokemon that there are for lazy users like me.

So, the new system, not that bad in my opinion. Don't like it then don't use it, don't click, don't play the suggested games to get AP, just wait and buy one or trade for one. Don't have the money or extra Pokemon to trade? Then click and play the game. There are other options out there.

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Posted: Sat, 24/05/2014 16:31 (10 Years ago)
No one in this thread is forgetting that interacting is the main point of this game. We'll still have to interact to get the event, it's not like we're wanting events to be given away for free and no effort.
Complaining about an adoptable site in general is ridiculous. But we've all probably done that, especially looking back at the Eevee rumble maps. And besides, I don't even consider the posts here as complaining, but merely suggestions on how Riako could improve the event system.
I do agree that you shouldn't have sore hands from clicking. If your hands are getting sore then pipe down a bit.
Also, Luna, in response to not wanting to break chains: you do know that events obtained from the event distribution page don't break your chain, right?
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Posted: Sat, 24/05/2014 16:31 (10 Years ago)
@QueenPumpkaboo but events don't break shiny chain...
And I can see some good points of this new system but unfortunately they are not for me so I support to have the old system back

Normal Gems for Ditto collected:

1 561 / 10 000


To get:

+Pidgeot,Beedrill,Slowbro,Sceptile,Swampert,Camerupt,Glaile,Gallade & Event Megas
Queen_Pumpkaboo
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Posted: Sat, 24/05/2014 17:01 (10 Years ago)
Sorry, when I say "break chains" I guess I shouldn't say it like that. What I mean is I don't want them breaking my chain, not literally, but I don't want to hold eggs in my party while I'm shiny hunting. I always called it breaking my chain because they take up space in my party while I'm shiny hunting, and I'd prefer to have eggs I need instead of waiting and begging for clicks on an event Pokemon. So I would buy them, skip the egg process, and wa-la, get my dex entry without all the hard work. Lazy user over here.

As for people not complaining, it just seems like this is people saying they don't want to click as much to make up for the points. That just sounds like complaining/whining to me, don't get me wrong I don't like clicking, but I won't complain when it's made more difficult I just won't do it.
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Posted: Sat, 24/05/2014 17:23 (10 Years ago)
I don't mind clicking more but I do mind it when I cannot get anywhere with super laggy computer - before the AP for berries was increased again I couldn't get anywhere with AP for interacting - I got just 100AP from 200 interactions that took me forever - That's what I didn't like about the new event process - the fact that it took forever to get AP for interacting. I know that this site is about interacting and I am not complaining about that - I do understand that you need to work for event but decreasing normal interacting to 0.5 and berry to 1 made it nearly impossible for some of us to get the event - especially when it's not that easy to obtain in other ways (buying etc.)
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Posted: Sat, 24/05/2014 20:50 (10 Years ago)
The old system would be good in my opinion, not everyone has time to get the AP to get the event pokemon. I do understand there are other ways to get them and that the site really does have a huge emphasis on needing to click but some people cant and maybe the mix thing would be good :/ Hopefully i can get this one while getting DPs cause it really does look pretty...
Riako
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Posted: Sat, 24/05/2014 21:06 (10 Years ago)
In my opinion, if the event system was changed again, we should rather think about lowering the total requirement and/or the duration of such an event.

Because: The main reason why I lowered the ratio to 2 Interactions = 1 AP is, because the different activity categories were rather unbalanced.

Also I can't really understand the argument "I didn't even reach 500 APs for Interacting, how am I supposed to get to 750 now?".
You don't have to reach this limit. No one ever expected that from you.

Aaand, tbh, "Don't like it, don't play it" isn't an argument either, as long as this "I don't like it" is a general opinion from the majority of the members. PokeHeroes is made for you (not for me), so you should have fun playing. And again, we're not trying to lower your fun, we're trying to make things more fair and balanced.

That's why this is a pilot project of an "improved" Event System.
And I'd friendly ask you to stop voting in this thread - neither for the old system, nor for the new system; we'll do a public vote with global announcement afterwards.
Please use this thread when something useful comes up to your mind that might be completely new and might combine both systems that is acceptable for both sides.
Diana
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Posted: Sat, 24/05/2014 21:37 (10 Years ago)
""Don't like it, don't play it" isn't an argument either," THANK YOU. I've said this so many times, but I guess it takes an Admin's word to make it more believable. I wouldn't mind the date being lowered for event. I'm sure mobile users will, but I'll leave the complaining to people who have no choice but to use those.

Also, guys, just because some of us are complaining, doesn't mean we aren't clicking. Look in my event box. Look at the date obtained. And I'm one of the people publicly complaining about. this. Now please stop using that as an argument, it only makes you seem like you have nothing else to go off of.
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Posted: Sat, 24/05/2014 21:55 (10 Years ago)
I managed to get at least 1 Event with every Distribution by just doing regular things like 3 auctions set up every hour or rumbling and Index page clicking. This made me fill at least for the first event, so it wasn't THAT hard before. And those are things that don't need a super fast computer or internet.

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