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Non-premium user's pokeradar update

Forum-Index Suggestions Rejected Non-premium user's pokeradar update
Loop_Dreamer
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Posted: Mon, 31/12/2018 18:01 (5 Years ago)
Hi!
I want to make a pretty simple suggestion - that the Pokéradar of a non-premium user won't reset, but you will still have to pay 50K PD/50 Nuggets/ 50 El. gems.

So if you hatched shiny, you need to buy new bateries, but if you continue hatching the same pokemon, you won't return to #0.

If user got a shiny, batteries were recharged but the pokemon is different, the pokeradar will begin from #1.

This would be super nice for non-premium users who want to shiny mega hunt.

I hope this was not suggested before, I tried to find it but I did not find anything. ;;

EDIT: Also i would like to state that this would behave like a premium membership's radar. Any kind of egg other than the hunted breed will cause the radar to reset (as otherwise it would be unfair, you could take pauses from hatching eggs of the same species)


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Posted: Tue, 01/01/2019 00:29 (5 Years ago)
I actually really like this and will forever support it!

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Posted: Tue, 22/01/2019 17:35 (5 Years ago)
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Posted: Mon, 22/04/2019 07:38 (5 Years ago)
support! i dont like that it resets after you hatch one, as i like to keep track of things and am very very very bad at math, ya know?

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Posted: Mon, 22/04/2019 07:47 (5 Years ago)
Support!
When my Premium ran out for my Noibat hunt. I was pretty mad cause it was for a shiny shop. I could not afford any more premium cause i was broke (。ŏ_ŏ)
I really like this idea. It gives Non-premium users a better chance to getting a shiny (for shops or shiny mega hunts)

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Posted: Wed, 01/05/2019 10:45 (4 Years ago)
This is actually a really good Idea!

PS only premium folks will dislike this


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Posted: Wed, 01/05/2019 11:01 (4 Years ago)
I like this idea and it would be useful.
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Posted: Wed, 01/05/2019 11:22 (4 Years ago)
This is a nice idea!
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Posted: Wed, 01/05/2019 12:17 (4 Years ago)
No support (as it will demotivate players to buy nuggets for premium membership which is used to maintain this site). But I fairly hope that we will no longer need to pay for the batteries.

Note: I've never been a premium member save for the time when there is a 5-day free premium membership as a reward in some events.

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Posted: Wed, 01/05/2019 14:41 (4 Years ago)
I'm not sure why it would demotivate people to buy premium if we still have to pay for new batteries?
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Posted: Wed, 01/05/2019 15:23 (4 Years ago)
No support.

I am a free to play player but get premium every month from the pd I get from doing other thing on PH.
This site needs people buying nuggets for its development and if Pokeradar were to work similar to Premium Pokeradar then it will defeat the purpose of people buying premium or nuggets.

One thing that can be done is to make non premium members buy batteries for like 30-40 nuggets each so it does not defeat the purpose of buying nuggets. In case the batteries are bought with nuggets will work same as premium Pokeradar.


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PianoMercury
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Posted: Wed, 01/05/2019 16:05 (4 Years ago)
I'm still not understanding why people are disagreeing? Have I read the post wrong??

It'll still work EXACTLY the way a free player's radar will, except you can continue a chain. You still have to buy batteries via nuggets, gems, etc. every time you hatch a shiny, and you don't get the same increase in a shiny chance that a premium member gets. How exactly does that discourage people from buying nuggets/premium?? The only difference is the chain NUMBER continues. Am I wrong? Because honestly I don't see why anyone would disagree with that?? It would just make it less messy if you're going after more than one of the same shiny.
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Posted: Wed, 01/05/2019 16:14 (4 Years ago)
I agree with dragonsumedh's idea but maybe make the nuggets price higher. (But it doesn't necessary mean that Ill support it.)

@lexie- by doing the calculations, one can conclude that if the suggestion will be implemented, there would be a significant effect on the user. Let us say in average every user will purchase the half-year premium membership which costs 4k nuggets. And let us assume that in every 3 days, a user will hatch a shiny. Hence in half a year, a user will hatch 60 shinies. Now in non-premium user POV, these 60 shinies is worth 3 million PD for recharging of batteries which is equal to 2k nuggets, which is half the price for half-year premium membership. Thus even though premium members have other benefits including higher shiny chance, since it is in the mentality of some ppl (most, in my country) to be willing to pay bit by bit instead of all at once, then implementing this suggestion will still give significant effect on the number of ppl who is willing not to buy premium membership, in which in turn might affect on the resources needed by the site.

P.s. I'm sorry if I might sound rude, but this is just my personality when I wish to prove something. So, peace! V^w^V

Edit: I'm not saying that not buying premium membership is more practical than buying, or vice versa (for we need to consider other data), but what I'm trying to point out is that there is a significant difference between the two in which that significant difference might affect the site.

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PianoMercury
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Posted: Wed, 01/05/2019 16:56 (4 Years ago)
I kind of get what you mean, but I also... don't.

To hatch a shiny every 3 days, even if you WERE premium, would be a lot of luck. A whole lot. While you're right about the prices, I still don't think it would discourage anyone from buying premium! The benefits FAR outweigh it.
It makes it MUCH easier for a premium member to get a shiny, and muuuuch less expensive as you've said. You don't need to pay over and over again, and by statistics you'll do it faster as well. A 1 in 40 chance compared to a 1 in 80, as WELL as a radar that doesn't constantly need new batteries??? That's absolutely amazing!
Now, lets say a non-premium user uses this 'updated radar' we're talking about. They hatch a shiny. They want to continue the chain. They pay, the chance of hatching a shiny drops back to a minimum, and the only thing that's different is that they continue the chain number. That's all.
This provides little differences, and only serves to make it easier to track shinies. It doesn't make it less expensive, it doesn't increase the shiny chance, or anything. It provides no real motivation for keeping people away from buying premium or nuggets. There is nothing that, as you said RAZP, makes people want to 'pay little by little' more than they already would. It would be just as expensive, just as tedious, and take just as long.
The motives for buying premium would still stand strong, and I don't believe it would change anything other than a little less annoyance. I really don't think it would affect the site or it's economy in the big way you're suggesting.
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Posted: Wed, 01/05/2019 16:59 (4 Years ago)
No support since if you hatch 2 pokémon (FIRST shiny and 2nd normal) in a row it will reset anyways. I find this unneeded and a bit op because premium membership pokeradar benefits would be smaller, plus buying nuggets keeps PH running.
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Posted: Wed, 01/05/2019 23:11 (4 Years ago)
@lexie
1. Being someone who frequently buys shiny from other users, I have observed that in average one can get shiny in every three days.
2. The point here is that in order to get 60 shinies, premium users will need to pay 4k nuggets for premium membership while non-premium membership will need to only pay 2k nuggets.
3. If the suggestion says that way and it is just my comprehension is wrong, then indeed it WONT bring significant effect on premium users. But u can just use the pokeradar history to find the number of shinies u hatched (and u can just count it there) save for the mega-ables (in which in my opinion is unnecessary since it won't help u in ur shiny hunt). The only advantage that I can think (if that is the case) is it will let u and other people who visit ur profile knows the amount of shinies and mega-ables u hatch which motivates u to continue ur hunt.N it allows u to see the total meha-able uve hatch. Thus, for these reasons, if that is the case, then I will be neutral.

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PianoMercury
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Posted: Thu, 02/05/2019 00:38 (4 Years ago)
I’m glad we could come to an understanding.
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Posted: Tue, 14/05/2019 21:14 (4 Years ago)
I suggested something similar here


Now In my opinion it’s not a bad suggestion but I have to agree with RAZPberry(it’s written this way right?)
I did vote to get this implemented but maybe non-premium users should have to pay an extra fee to continue with their chain. This way people will keep buying premium if they can and others will save more PD. Maybe a 20k PD fee or more idk but values should be made more equal and adjusting. Premium members most of the time contribute to the site by paying nuggets, so in case this gets implemented there will be a massive loss as many non premium users collect a lot of pd like a friend of mine (over 4M pd).
So maybe paying a smol fee to continue the chain would be a better solution.
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Posted: Mon, 03/06/2019 11:46 (4 Years ago)
Sorry RAZPherry, I'm going to have to disagree with you here.

I might be on a month long premium right now, but I got the nuggets exchanging gems on the GTS, and this month has my birthday on it. It isn't nice to have a Chain interrupted because you hatched one shiny.
Furthermore, I'm one of those cases where I have once tried to buy nuggets, but couldn't because the bank my debit card was with found the sale to be far to suspicious/scam-y and refused to process. I can't make like a beggar and go around hassling others for their nuggets.

So yeah. This has my support as someone who CAN'T GET NUGGETS by paying on site.

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Posted: Mon, 03/06/2019 15:28 (4 Years ago)
@TedizStalker - I am a premium member for last 4 and half years and haven't even spent a dime on the game.

Getting nuggets and premium is not that hard.
If the pokeradar were to act like premium radar it will defeat the purpose of people buying nuggets or premium.




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