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Shiny Colours

Forum-Index Suggestions Rejected Shiny Colours
Shreyash_Jain
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Posted: Thu, 06/02/2014 08:06 (10 Years ago)
We all know that most of the shiny pokemons have colours different than the original pokemons.
But some pokemons like vaniluxe whose shinies look almost the same as normal.
Here's a suggestion.
Since we all love this game, and want it to be better and a bit different than other games (there have been suggestions put down because they tried to suggest addition of some features from pokeform, or pokemonvortex etc).
More than 50% of the pokemons have amazing shiny outlooks, unfortunately for some like dragonite etc the shinies look even worse (if someone loves shiny dragonite's colour, take no offence). There would be many other pokemons also, but I haven't seen all shinies.
Can't we do something to change their colours like changing s. dragonite's colour from dark green to maybe red, or any apprpriate colour, and slowly even others, and developing a new outlook of pokemons like s. vanilluxe?
I hope there would be many in favour. But those who are not kindly post here so that I may know the truth and reality.
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Posted: Thu, 06/02/2014 08:15 (10 Years ago)
No support at all. They wont even be shinnies. They will just be recolors which wont be counted as rare to some people. There are lots of Pokemon with eye catching shiny colors.
So what if Vanilluxe hasn't. People don't have to hunt it.
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Shreyash_Jain
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Posted: Thu, 06/02/2014 08:20 (10 Years ago)
hummm...
yes you are completely correct
but there is not only 1 pokemon like vanilluxe
and i was suggesting to change the colour of shinies who don't have good colours, (ofcourse it could be recolouring which would be something unique at this site), but there's no reason why people won't hunt it.
and for s.vanilluxe, if there's a new colour for it, many users will start hunting it.
and don't tell that they can hunt others also, because everyone has his/her own interest, and it's not only vanilluxe but many others.
Toothie
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Posted: Thu, 06/02/2014 08:28 (10 Years ago)
People don't have to hunt Pokemon with poor shiny colors.
Still no support from me. It wont be original.
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CarpetMonster
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Posted: Thu, 06/02/2014 08:29 (10 Years ago)
I also don't support. The Shinies are like that in the official games. PokéHeroes would just be inaccurate if the sprites were changed. Maybe there can be an event for alternately colored Pokémon, but it should be as its own species. Changing the colors of Pokémon that already exist isn't a good idea at all, as people might still like the old colors, and then dislike the new color.
Besides; this whole thing is horribly opinionated. Some people love the Shiny color of one Pokémon, while others hate it. Vanilluxe is a perfect example of this: you say that Shiny Vanilluxe is too similar to the original and should be changed, but Shiny Vanilluxe is my favorite color, so I would be upset by that. Furthermore, who would decide what colors to make the new Shinies? What colors would look better is even more opinionated.
It's impossible to please everyone. For example, half the Pokémon fanbase is complaining that Mega Evolutions were given to Pokémon like Blaziken that were already strong, and half the fanbase is complaining that they were given to Pokémon like Absol that weren't strong enough and should have gotten real evolutions. People are going to dislike the colors of a lot of Pokémon no matter what, and changing them will only upset the people who liked the original colors.

Edit: There is already at least one Shiny Dragonite on the site. If you changed its color, would that be fair to the user who hunted it? That user probably likes Shiny Dragonite, if he or she went to the trouble of hunting it. Changing it would be unnecessary and unfair.

Edit 2: You are hunting Shiny Dratini right now! You are even saying that your goal is to have a Shiny Dragonite (among other things). I'm pretty sure that, given that you commented on hating Shiny Dragonite's appearance, you're only making this thread so that your Shiny Dragonite would look better, and you don't care about the people who already have them. Those people actually like Shiny Dragonite, and if this suggestion was implemented, you would be forcing them to make it change color even if they want it to be the same. Do you realize how selfish that is?
Shreyash_Jain
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Posted: Thu, 06/02/2014 08:37 (10 Years ago)
Is it at all possible to choose our own colours for shinies, maybe that would be accurate at pokeheroes
maybe like for shiny bulbasaur, there 4 to 5 options for shiny outlooks, and according to our own choice, we choose up one form.
for example in gardevoir the base colour is colour is green and white and in shiny, it is blue and white. we are given an option to choose are own 2 clours for it, like i'll choose white, and red instead of green, some other users likes itthe way it is, somebody may even want blue and green and so on.
so, does this post deserve and supports?
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Posted: Thu, 06/02/2014 08:49 (10 Years ago)
I support that idea even less. Do you realize how hard that would be to do?
Riako would have to get a version of every Pokémon that is completely transparent, with translucent black and white shading. Then, he would have to code a feature where you can pick any color at all - no, not just the colors that look good according to one person, but all 16581375 colors - and automatically layer the Pokémon on top of that color and save the newly made, auto-shaded Pokémon on the site, using that as the sprite for your Pokémon instead of the real, official sprite. Still, that's not enough! Some Pokémon have multiple colors, so he would have to have it separate the parts with different colors and let you pick a bunch of colors for them. Afterwards, everyone would just immediately take the feature for granted, and then they'd start asking for more. "Who cares about changing simple colors? We want to be able to draw patterns on our Pokémon!" Even so, some people can't be appropriate, so they would have to moderate and manually approve every single design for every single one of the 8605 users and all of their Pokémon.
Put simply, that idea would be INSANELY hard to do and moderate, and people would STILL be begging Riako to add even more features, because they'd get tired of it after a while. They would also expect the feature to continue being moderated smoothly for an infinite amount of time, complaining every time their submission isn't approved or denied within an hour (or less, for some impatient people). I think that idea would be WAY more trouble than it's worth, and it's even worse than the original idea.
EDIT: I didn't see your edit until after I wrote this, so it isn't completely accurate. Still, people would quickly be dissatisfied, and it would lead to them asking for this anyway.
Shreyash_Jain
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Posted: Thu, 06/02/2014 08:55 (10 Years ago)
see you are correct, but you didn't understand what i said.
we may choose are own colour
yes here we can have a colour bar in which we drag to choose the colour, so that rules out the big no. of colours you said, and Riako would not have to make a new colour for every pokemon.
There's just an option provided t set our own colour we want for any shiny, and that would be displayed.
Toothie
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Posted: Thu, 06/02/2014 08:58 (10 Years ago)
Recoloring a Pokemon?
I really hate that idea, sorry... It just wouldn't be right. No support still, for the reasons Carpet stated.
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CarpetMonster
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Posted: Thu, 06/02/2014 09:05 (10 Years ago)
I did understand what you said. You didn't understand what I said.
I already said why having a color bar to drag is a terrible idea. That's 16581375 colors, counting lighter and darker versions of all of the colors on a color bar. If you don't count them, we'd have to do a vote to determine what shades to use, people would be dissatisfied - because they always are - and we're right back where we started.
I already said why Riako would have to make one for every Pokémon. Choosing only some Pokémon is too opinionated, we'd have to do a vote to determine what Pokémon to choose, people would be dissatisfied - because they always are - and we're right back where we started.
I already said how Riako would have to code it being displayed, and explained why that would be too difficult and more trouble than it's worth.
I still don't support, and I don't think you read the reasons why.
Shreyash_Jain
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Posted: Thu, 06/02/2014 09:09 (10 Years ago)
Why do you rule out all the possiblities which even others may wanna post, and yes, i read EACH and EVERYTHING you post, but unfortunately, you seem to be unaware what i say.
a drag colourbar (i hope you understand what it is, and how it works, if you ever hve used paint or colouring in ms office)

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Posted: Thu, 06/02/2014 09:19 (10 Years ago)
no support at all because of the stated reasons . shinies should be exactly like the original shiny colours




CarpetMonster
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Posted: Thu, 06/02/2014 09:30 (10 Years ago)
I AM NOT UNAWARE OF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

THIS is what I see in MS Paint. Using those options, there are 16581375 POSSIBLE COLORS.
Now, let's say that you were to remove the option to choose the shade of a color and ONLY have one shade of each color. (THIS, not what is in MS Paint, is what a "drag color bar" REALLY is.) You would still need to decide on WHAT shade of each color to use. As I said in my first post, IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO PLEASE EVERYONE, so NO, you CANNOT decide on what shade of each color. You want to be able to use a dark red for Dragonite? What if someone else wants to use a light red? How are they supposed to do that if there is only one option for each color? THEY CAN'T.
I am "ruling out all of the possibilities" because I know that those possibilities are flawed, and I don't want people to just assume that they aren't because nobody pointed out those flaws.
As I said in another thread - to you, I might add - suggestions are NOT just "approve or deny." People have the right to give criticism on suggestions and explain WHY it isn't a good idea, or other people are going to assume that the idea is perfect and support it in spite of said flaws.
This suggestion would not be a good idea. I have given valid reasons to explain why I think so. You have said that I do not know what a "drag color bar" is. As I said before, I honestly don't think you've read the entirety of my posts.
Shreyash_Jain
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Posted: Thu, 06/02/2014 09:49 (10 Years ago)
OKAY THEN. YOU WIN, AS I HAVE NO INTEREST IN ARGUING WITH YOU.
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Kuroo
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Posted: Thu, 06/02/2014 09:52 (10 Years ago)
No need to get upset. CarpetMonster was just throwing in his two cents - and he actually was right with everything he said. Closing now.


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