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Rules With Exceptions

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JackEthan
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Posted: Thu, 20/07/2017 07:09 (6 Years ago)
*PLEASE READ BEFORE TRASHING!!!*


Hello, fellow users of Pokeheroes.

As you can see, I'm JackEthan. I come to you with a very important message today. I have been married to a kind and loving woman since October 8th of 2016 and have known her personally for going on three years now. Although she is sweet and kind, she does have her issues, as do we all. Due to a traumatic past, my wife has been diagnosed with several mental disorders including: ADHD (Attention Deficit Hyperactive Disorder), Bipolar Disorder, PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder), Schizophrenia, Multiple Personality Disorder, Chronic Depression, Severe Anxiety, and many more different afflictions of the mind. She has even been deemed unable to work by the state and is provided a monthly income to get by on.

As of this moment, she has a plethora of voices in her head along with around 9 different personalities that can emerge at any time. When said personalities emerge, she blacks out and has absolutely no memory of what was done during this time period.

When she is gone, she has no control over what happens.

Just a few months ago, her account on Pokeheroes was perma-banned due to having multiple accounts that she had no idea even existed in the first place. They were made by her personalities. Yet, no one is willing to hear us out and say that the rules are rules and will be enforced no matter the circumstances.

Do you think this is fair?

She had no knowledge of the accounts and was punished for them existing. She tried to log in one day and found herself banned.

Please, I beg you as a community to come forward and help us. My wife adores this site, she adores Pokemon, and she made countless friends on here. Help us tell them that what happened to her isn't right. It is discrimination against people with mental disorders that are out of their control.

Not to mention that this happened when her psychiatrist took her off of her medication without weening her off of it first. She went through withdraws for weeks before she could become self dependent again...

Help us.... If not for me or for ChristiBelle, then for anyone else this may happen to in the future.

Thank you for your time reading this.

JackEthan
Fernsong
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Posted: Thu, 20/07/2017 07:46 (6 Years ago)
See, I completely understand that some people may have disorders like the ones you stated. However, even if this was an actual thing, it could spawn several problems. If anyone could do this, some guy would be like "I didn't know I had that multi, I have this disorder." even if they really don't.
JackEthan
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Posted: Thu, 20/07/2017 07:51 (6 Years ago)
@Jek_Porkins

I can see where you're coming from as well. However, I don't see the point in punishing those who really DID nothing wrong or really had no knowledge of what happened. Like, for example, when confronted the first time my wife got confronted for the account thing, she came clean that there was a possibility that it could have been Cat ((One of her personalities)) and they blocked that account.

I can understand blocking and banning any account that may pop up linked to hers, but why take away all her hard work on her legitimate account for something she can't control?
Fernsong
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Posted: Thu, 20/07/2017 08:02 (6 Years ago)
Yes, I can see where that would be clearly unfair. However, mods have no real way of confirming or denying someone has these disorders. If people were honest, the mods might've unblocked her account. But you have to understand, people lie. That's how life is these days. Its people like that who ruin it for users who actually do have stuff. If a trust thing ever gets broken, it might be hard to get them to trust someone again. For example, say you gave money to a homless person who turned out to just want money, but not actually need it. This might cause a person to be untrusting of homeless people, and refusing to give money to actual homeless people.
JackEthan
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Posted: Thu, 20/07/2017 08:10 (6 Years ago)
Again, true. Yet there should at least be some kind of chance system or a way to prove it. When they were dealing with my wife, her doctor had pulled her cold turkey off two of her medications. She wasn't herself. If asked, we could probably provide screenshots from the Social Security office deeming her unfit to work or even take care of her own money thanks to her mental issues.

It's just she loves this site so much and put so much effort and money into it. Aside from the accounts, she did absolutely nothing wrong. And once it got out what was going on, members of the site began attacking her as well. Despite this, she still wants to come back. She tried giving it up, but she loves it too much.

I'm just trying to get people to understand so she can have one more chance... That's all we really want. I want to see her happy. The past several months haven't been the best and an escape is what she needs. And unlike a normal person, she refuses to make another account to get back in because she knows it's against the rules....
Fernsong
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Posted: Thu, 20/07/2017 08:15 (6 Years ago)
Perhaps you can make an appeal to moderators and explain what happened. Like you said, you can show screenshots. But unlike you said, the multiple accounts weren't the only problem. She also attacked two staff members saying they were taunting (or something like that, it's been a while don't you know) her and her friend on a thread, when in actuality the mods pointed out that her friend remade an already existing thread.
Cypher2101
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Posted: Thu, 20/07/2017 08:23 (6 Years ago)
No exceptions. The rules are called rules because they rule us! They lead us! I understand the case but if because of her disease she killed someone would the police understand? If a killer has you at gunpoint, does he give you a second chance? I'm sorry, but the mods are always right.
Fernsong
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Posted: Thu, 20/07/2017 08:25 (6 Years ago)
Cypher, there I must disagree. The mods aren't always right. There have been a couple (although very rare) cases of users who were perma blocked but it was a mistake.
Cypher2101
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Posted: Thu, 20/07/2017 08:28 (6 Years ago)
I am the kind of person who lives by the rules. If your superior tells you to do something, you do it. No anger, no screaming, no nothing. You just do it. It's important to never break any rule. If it'd be my decision, any small offence would lead to a perma-ban. Tyranny? Yes. Complete order? Yes.
Fernsong
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Posted: Thu, 20/07/2017 08:31 (6 Years ago)
I'll admit, the mods are there to keep us from breaking rules and stuff. But I admit, people shouldn't get punished for mistakes made by the mods themselves.
JackEthan
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Posted: Thu, 20/07/2017 08:34 (6 Years ago)
@Jek_Porkins

I've been trying to appeal to the moderators, but none of them are responding to me. Hence why I made this thread in the hope of garnering enough support to get their attention. I figured that if maybe enough people agree that what's going on is unfair that they'll change their minds.

Hmmm, I'll have to talk to CB about that one. I doubt she'll remember though since the accident, but it's worth a shot. If I know Christi though then she probably felt like she had a good reason. I know I attacked two on one occasion for coming after my wife. I still have the warnings to prove it. As far as I know all of her warnings were for multi-accounts except for one where they claimed she was cheating.... which neither of us understood either.

All I know, is that I want this injustice righted. Living with my wife, I see the struggles she goes through everyday. Adding on the discrimination of some of the people who inhabit the internet is not helping in the slightest.


@Cypher2101

In the case of someone getting shot by someone like my wife she would be tried as mentally unstable since it wasn't technically her that pulled the trigger. She would go to a mental institution. This is nothing like killing someone though. This is another personality creating an account on a website so they could have some fun too.

Every rule has an exception. One could even argue that the rules say "One account per person." And my wife isn't just one person, she's 10 different people in one body.

On a final note with you, I would hate to have someone like you in a political office. From your point of view, petty theft could end in life in prison or even death. Just like there are rules, there have to be people in charge than can discern right from wrong. Life isn't just black and white, there's a grey area in between and we need people who can properly judge where that area starts and ends. In the politest way possible, I must say that you have a very harsh view of the world and that I feel very sorry for you.
Cypher2101
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Posted: Thu, 20/07/2017 08:39 (6 Years ago)
For real crimes, I think the current punishments are just fine. Petty theft isn't that bad. But if we make exceptions for a person, everyone else will demand that they receive exceptions too! Complete order isn't necessary, but complete chaos is impossible to control. I was taught that rulebreaking can lead to chaos. I just like this site very much and I don't want to see it descend into chaos, then get closed, just because of some rulebreakers, leading to other rulebreakers and so on.
Fernsong
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Posted: Thu, 20/07/2017 08:41 (6 Years ago)
@Jack
The mods have been busy recently. There have been minor dramas, spams, rule breaking and so forth. The mods may be busy.
@Cypher
So, if someone accidentally cursed, they'd get perma banned? My phone's auto correct is crazy. Say in a feed I tried to write 'shot' but my phone changed it to 'sh!t'. Would that be fair?
Cypher2101
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Posted: Thu, 20/07/2017 08:44 (6 Years ago)
I just said that complete order isn't necessary, just keep it away from complete chaos.
Fernsong
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Posted: Thu, 20/07/2017 08:45 (6 Years ago)
Yeah I know, I just posted it then read your post afterwards.
Cypher2101
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Posted: Thu, 20/07/2017 08:47 (6 Years ago)
Here's a middle line: instead of a perma-ban, reduce the ban to one week, or one month, or the such, if you can't convince the mods to fully lift it.
JackEthan
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Posted: Thu, 20/07/2017 08:49 (6 Years ago)
@Jek_Porkins

I'm aware that they're busy. However, they happily respond when I message to see if they're busy, but vanish into thin air the moment I bring up my wife.

@Cypher2101

So, in your eyes, my wife deserves to have all her hard work and well spent money stripped away from her solely because she has a disability and an incompetent doctor?

And I agree with that. A short ban would be fine. Although, it should have been lifted now since it's been 3 months since the ban was put in place.

Finally, the Social Security website opens for services as 5AM. I'll be seeing if I can get proof.
Cypher2101
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Posted: Thu, 20/07/2017 08:51 (6 Years ago)
Then why isn't it lifted? Now the mods kinda went unfair.
JackEthan
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Posted: Thu, 20/07/2017 08:52 (6 Years ago)
That's the point I'm trying to get across. They perma-banned her for something she had no control over.
Fernsong
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Posted: Thu, 20/07/2017 08:53 (6 Years ago)
It could be that perhaps the mods are trying to not bring back old drama. After all, the incident lasted nearly three days. Either that or they might not have the power to unban people.