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this is a daycare/breading thing
1: if you bread using shiny pokemon you will get +25% shiny % (like if you have 2% to get a shiny it makes it a 2.50%)
2: if you use a Ditto to bread your pokemon have a 15% to have a purple tint (the purple tint can just makes a pokemon look cool or it can make more pokemon like it at the daycare)
3:(this is a mabe) if you bread a mom and its son you get -25% eggs

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1. If the chance goes down to 10%, then yeah, I support it. Because otherwise, Premium + shiny charm + 40th in a row + shiny parents will turn shinies way too common.

2. No. It would take a unescessary amount of time to recolor all Pokemon in PH.

3. I actually really like this part! Maybe if you bred a offspring with a parent in general should have less chance.

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1 - would make it way too easy to get a shiny. You would have the extra premium increase, the increase you get for reaching chain 40, the increase with the shiny charm. And now an increase for using shiny parent pokemon?

2 - what use would the purple tint have?

3 - I kinda sorta agree for this one. But keeping track of each pokemon's parents. Personally, I wouldn't like it but it probably wouldn't affect me either as I release extra pokemon when shiny hunting.

@meme well for the 2nd that is a good pont and for the 1st i did not play PH for some time so i dont know all the shiny up thing what is the max shiny %?
@~Bad_Apple~ the purple tint just makes a pokemon look cool or it can make more pokemon like it at the daycare

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No support.

Considering the fact that the current highest possible shiny percentage is around 2% (yeahhhh I can't remember the exact number), your suggestion will greatly deflate the price of shinies.

Secondly, there is no increase in shiny chance for using shiny in the real games (that I'm aware of) so I don't particularly see why it should increase the chances here.

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That is like saying in the real game you can't use pokeradar for eggs also a lot of things are not like in the real game and how will it going from 2% to 2.50% do that much and you need to be going for your 2nd shiny of that Pokémon so you need to buy or get it at the max of 2% before you can get the .50% @silverstar

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The thing is though, this is something that would go completely against how the game works. We've simply made more ways to get eggs which would make sense with the real game since it makes sense that there might be wild eggs in the grass. We already know from in game that shiny pokemon don't increase the chances of more shinies.

Secondly, I'm not sure what you mean by the rest of what you said? You've said 25% not 2.5% in your first post.

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no no no no 25% of your % so if you get 1% it will be 1.25% @SilverStar
also let me list 5 things that are not in the game
1 mega stones are just on the pokemon that can be used by geting 2 mega stones
2 Gem Cauldron
3 you need to warm eggs
4 Tall Grass
5 you cant bet on things in the real game
(also if i wanted the auction house)
this will make shiny pokemon more use full if i want a shiny Combee i can buy one get my shiny pokemon and sell it back and at max its .50% so it is more for some one that just wants it to go some what faster and this is just something to make it fell more fun and add something to make the game more deep (btw you know there are more then the shiny thing on this post?)

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It's a no support from me. I've been avoiding to post on suggestion threads since they give me a headache but I felt the need to.

Common features on adoptable websites that also make it entertaining /=/ developing an unnecessary feature that does not add up to the lore of the franchise it's based on.

Quote from babyboucher99

1 mega stones are just on the pokemon that can be used by geting 2 mega stones
2 Gem Cauldron
3 you need to warm eggs
4 Tall Grass
5 you cant bet on things in the real game

1, Explain to me like I'm a five years old, I don't understand a thing you said. Re-reading it five times now, if Pokèmons aren't mega-able, megas would be way too common and getting one just won't feel as rewarding. I, personally, like the concept that there's a low chance of hatching a mega-able, and even then you need to get your hands on a (one) mega stone which is a rare item. Tough work but it's rewarding and really balances gameplay.
2, Harmless feature, doesn't affect gameplay directly, adds a way to get rare items, an alternative to get a mega stone which is very rare. Also black box and key which I'm assuming you're going to argue doesn't exist in the game, too.
3, Let me just walk around in Emera Town even on the Daycare Man's lawn to hatch a monster spawn. Wait, I can't, because there's no such feature and this is an adoptable website where to level up my Pokèmons I need to click others' Pokèmons.
4, Suggest another efficient way to get eggs other than from Greg or the Daycare. Please.
5, Roulette and Slots in Pokèmon Emerald (Not familiar with higher gens games)

The whole point (that shouldn't have been focused on) isn't the fact that features not in the main game shouldn't be implemented. But why it isn't in the main games are the points you need to focus on. Things not in the games are okay, but declining the facts from the game for a new feature is not okay especially when the whole site is based around it.

Quote from SilverStar

The thing is though, this is something that would go completely against how the game works. We've simply made more ways to get eggs which would make sense with the real game since it makes sense that there might be wild eggs in the grass. We already know from in game that shiny pokemon don't increase the chances of more shinies.

This whole, whole post full of so much ignored arguments.
If the main game doesn't let you have an increased chance in shiny if either of the parents are, why would you add it? Give me one good reason. We already have Shiny Charm and Premium to increase our chances of hatching a shiny, too. I see no reason why and how does it make the gameplay more fun or deep.

Since you mentioned that the shiny thing isn't the only thing in this suggestion, I'm going to add more to this already long post.

2nd Suggestion:
What meme said. Too much work, no real use, honestly would look ugly.
I don't even have to write a long post, thank god.

3rd Suggestion:
Actually pretty good idea but it isn't useful at all, is it? Keeping the bloodline of a Pokèmon would be way too much hassle especially since we aren't keeping tracks of them since the beginning of the site and implementing such a feature would be too much hassle. And honestly, I'd rather see Riako spend his time implementing suggestions that actually enhance the gameplay. Plus, in Pokèmon, you just don't question things, even incest. How does Onix, a really tall snake(?) made out of rocks breed? Who knows. How does a female Machamp even presents itself? That's for your imagination. How does Jinx, a humanoid-like Pokèmon even bre- oh god no that's too disturbing let's not talk about it. That's honestly just how it is, really.

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@Joji
1 so your just saying that it is rewarding so its ok?
2 and how will the shiny thing not just be a harmless feature?
3 well you can make a minigame like hit keys at some time to get it to hatch
4 well mabe a place to find eggs that did not get picked up by the other players that are from the daycare
5 i can just ctrl+v so here (All core series games since Pokémon Black and White remove the Game Corner entirely)
(i dont understand what is after 5 soo down to the quote)
because its a cool thing if im playing a game and i get a shiny and i breed with it and see it gives me a boost in my shiny % im going to think wow that is a cool thing im not going to think that is not in the really game and the % is so low that .50 is not going to do a lot dont you think and its for a pokemon you have shiny in the 1st place

2nd suggestion
so you dont think i will look good so its bad?
and the use is it will be more liked by pokemon in the daycare

3rd
well that is a good pont for ones but this is enhancing the game play it be cool to get a pokemon from the GTS and seeing that (name here) was the one to get that breed that pokemon this can be made just so you can see the parents and all the pokemon that are here now dont need to have it (if you need to explain why just say that the daycare man just stared doing it) and can you tell me "suggestions that actually enhance the gameplay"?

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I feel like I'm going to be repeating everything that's already been said, but, hopefully, I get my point across. Although, some points may not make sense since I can only guess what your points are supposed to mean. So, sorry in advance~

Excuse me, for I do not know how to do the quote thingy, but-

"also let me list 5 things that are not in the game
1 mega stones are just on the pokemon that can be used by geting 2 mega stones
2 Gem Cauldron
3 you need to warm eggs
4 Tall Grass
5 you cant bet on things in the real game"

1. I don't know how long you've been playing pokemon for, and which generations, but mega stones are, infact, in the real games. Introduced in X and Y and carried through to Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, and Sun and Moon. On PH we give mega stones to mega able Pokemon which are just as rare to hatch as shiny pokemon*. You only need 2 mega stones to mega evolve a pokemon and you certainly do not get another mega stone after you've used it.
(*Should we have a thing where if the parent pokemon are megas, we have a higher chance to hatch a mega able?)

2. The gem cauldron. Sure, it's not in the actual games, but what are we going to do with a butt tonne of gems? We could sell them, for them to be re-sold and then re-sold again. The gem collector isn't in the real games, and nor is the gem exchange itself. We might as well use the gems for something, and what other harmless way to use them for than boiling some evolutionary stones. And it's not as if everyone can exploit it for mega stones as you need to work your way up to it by gaining experience. Also, I believe it takes a day (?) for a mega stone (it could also be a black box/key/carbink egg) to boil.

3. You need to warm eggs? Really? I think this is just common sense. Chickens and most other birds sit on their eggs to keep them warm until they hatch. In the pokemon games (and in the anime), you have to walk around with a pokemon egg to warm it. Warming eggs have always been a thing. Unless you mean by the clicking - but that wasn't what you stated in that list of five.

4. The tall grass. So, in the games, what's that thing we're told not to wonder into at the start of most pokemon games because wild pokemon will jump out at you? I have nothing more to say for this.

5. I loved pokemon Diamond and Pearl. I had Diamond and I can remember, in Veilstone city, there was a games corner. You may have not been able to play on the slots machine (You could in Platinum) you could still find and buy game chips which you could then cash in for pokemon and items. And then I got Heart Gold and Soul Silver. I would spend hours on the Voltorb Flip thing, which would get me game chips. Enough said.

Can I point out the PH is not the real games but an adoption site. So it won't be identical but it won't be completely different.

I really do not like the increased shiny chance by using shiny parents. No matter how much I get frustrated with a long chain, it's the feeling of achievement when it finally hatches. I don't know how many shinies of one species of pokemon you want but when I get a shiny, I don't really want another of the same. Fair enough, if you want it for the shiny dex, but that's another feature of premium that we have - you're shiny chain does not break when you hatch a shiny, until you hatch an egg containing a different species. Plus the fact that you get an shiny chance increase with premium. And another increase if you have the shiny charm.

Furthermore, implement this and I feel like we'd also implement and increased mega-able chance when using mega parents. All of this would just result in pokemon values hitting the floor. How common would shiny megas be? I believe it would be really unfair to those who have worked hard for their shiny megas and then this gets implemented and all-of-a-sudden, everyone has a shiny mega.

As for the purple tint - are you willing to edit all the current and to come PH pokemon sprites? I wouldn't. There's like, what, 1000+, including: original pokemon, shiny pokemon, mega pokemon, shiny mega, event, shiny event, mega event, shiny mega event. We shouldn't take the artists/spriters for granted, I don't believe that they get paid for their contributions to PH (though I could be wrong?). They have lives outside of PH that we must respect. We have a perfectly fine 'likeability' thing (I'm not too sure what you would call it).

And as much as I do like your third point, I can't agree with it. I agree with Joji - Do you know how many eggs have been hatched during PH's life time? It would be too much effort to track down the parent's of each and every pokemon (which, there's now doubt, many will have been released).

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May I make a suggestion for the 'purple tint' though? Just so I don't sound like a jerk I kinda am tbh.

My Idea: Maybe, sometime in the future of PH, the purple tint could represent Pokerus (It's in the real games). You shouldn't necessarily get it from a ditto but, just by random chance, an egg hatched from the lab will hatch a pokemon that is slightly purple. Or we could just give it that purple symbol thing from the games, so no sprites will have to be changed. The Pokemon infected will gain twice the amount of stat gain, not exp, for like an hour or so. And it could have a very small chance to spread so it's not exploited in any way.

I honestly don't know - It could be a future event

@~Bad_Apple~ i want to replay to this but i dont think i have the time to do that
btw how long did it take you to right all of that?

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Quote from babyboucher99

1 so your just saying that it is rewarding so its ok?
2 and how will the shiny thing not just be a harmless feature?
3 well you can make a minigame like hit keys at some time to get it to hatch
4 well mabe a place to find eggs that did not get picked up by the other players that are from the daycare
5 i can just ctrl+v so here (All core series games since Pokémon Black and White remove the Game Corner entirely)

1, Getting a Mega Pokèmon and a Mega Stone, evolving them and get that sweet, sweet Pokèdex entry is rewarding, yes.
2, Because we already have higher chances of getting a shiny from the main games and can even upgrade it more if we work hard enough. aka get premium membership and the shiny charm. Plus, I can already imagine a scamming/begging scheme: Let me borrow your shiny Pokèmon so I can have a higher chance in hatching a shiny please.
3, I'm on phone and the current clicklist is already a hassle, can you not.
4, …You just described the tall grass
5, And? What's your point? You can't get certain legendaries in the new games so now on PokèHeroes you can't get them either? That's your case? We should just remove Giratina quest from the Ancient Cave, then.

Quote from babyboucher99

so you dont think i will look good so its bad? and the use is it will be more liked by pokemon in the daycare

No, you don't look good in purple, you seem more like a blue guy.
Yes. It looks bad because colors would clash and it makes no sense at all in the first place. If I'm going to breed my Unowns with a Ditto for the dex entry I'd rather not have an ugly knock off instagram purple filter that makes no sense.
Jokes aside, why does it do that, how does it even work and why do we even need it? Because it's a ditto and since Ditto is purple why not make the offsprings purple? I'd get if the site would recolor+edit Pokèmons for events but change so many sprites just because?

Quote from Joji

Keeping the bloodline of a Pokèmon would be way too much hassle especially since we aren't keeping tracks of them since the beginning of the site and implementing such a feature would be too much hassle. And honestly, I'd rather see Riako spend his time implementing suggestions that actually enhance the gameplay.

My point stands.

Don't stray from the actual suggestion. Your third suggestion was that Pokèmons that were to breed in the daycare have any kind of incestual relationship, their breeding chance are to be decreased even though it doesn't matter in the main games and should stay like so because it's honestly better. The list of Pokèmons' family tree was an addition that would take too much space and work, despite your personal reasonings. 'Suggestion that would actually enhance the gameplay;' Emera Beach, Block Function, Bank History. Features that would actually do something other than 'Hey it seems cool to add why not.' and not something that would decrease an already main thing without adding another feauture or adding onto a feauture. In this case, decrease the breeding chances for incestual breedings [Even though it doesn't apply in the main games] for an ever expanding family tree [that doesn't exist in the main games and is mostly useless].

Personally, when I have only one Pokèmon and no breeding pairs I'd take that Pokèmon, breed it with another species and then when I get the gender and species I want, I'll make them my breeding couple. Call me gross, they're fiction pixelated animal monsters. I'd rather not waste my time searching for a breeding couple that isn't related to each other and to my dismay, found out they are related because it's a hassle to check.

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@~Bad_Apple~
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Your last purple tint suggestion- I think someone had suggested Pokèrus to be added but it was rejected since we already have the front page that shows a different Pokèmon every 5 minutes. I'll link if I can find it, it was around 2 years ago.

Also, babyboucher99, it's quite rude to ask Bad Apple about how long did it take for her to write all of that and not replying to any of it, simply stating that you're busy without any kind of context is not a very good excuse. You could had always return at another time, no one urges you to post everything within seeing it.

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I could list all the reasons I personally don't support, but from what I can tell, everything's already been mentioned, so I'll give a short summary.

1. This would severely unbalance the worth of shinies, making them a lot more common. Even the slightest increase would cause an unbalance as it impact the main game, rather than one of the additions.
2. Doesn't really make sense [sorry ^^'] and would ask a huge investment of everyone involved. This wouldn't be a 'small' addition, but a whole new feature that would demand a lot of time and attention.
3. While we don't have the familial bonds, we are encouraging trading among the users, as different OTs increase the breeding chance. As such, I feel this change/addition would make it more complicated than it should be.

With a majority not supporting [+90%], this suggestion is going to be rejected.

//locked and rejected.

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